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Cuz I wanna know if I need to create and finish a bucket list if that’s the case lmao.

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[–] Aquilae@hexbear.net 84 points 1 month ago (6 children)

You're asking this in the site that was sure Russia wouldn't actually invade Ukraine

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 35 points 1 month ago

I got an online buddy in Russia and they were just as surprised as us tbf.

[–] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 27 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

biblically-accurate-kitty To be fair, Russia didn't invade Ukraine per se.

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No one but the Russian government called that one to be fair

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[–] john_browns_beard@hexbear.net 61 points 1 month ago (7 children)

I'm gonna say not a chance, but then again I also was adamant that Putin would never invade Ukraine, sooo...

Rule #1 of nuclear war is don't live in or near a major city, so I'm screwed.

[–] DefinitelyNotAPhone@hexbear.net 75 points 1 month ago (3 children)

On the contrary, rule #1 of nuclear war is live directly next to a major target so you get the instantaneous atomization death over the cancer-and-famine option.

[–] AmericaDelendaEst@hexbear.net 21 points 1 month ago

Not everyone in Hiroshima or Nagasaki died instantly

[–] hotspur@hexbear.net 18 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Yes, and try and live close to the center of where you think the nuke would be targeted. If it comes, you’ll be vaporized instantly with no awareness. Depending on the size of the nuke, if you’re outside of that radius, you get shockwave, firestorm and fallout depending on distance, and while you will almost certainly die, it may not be quick and painless.

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Idk it would be pretty neat to see the blastwave.

[–] MayoPete@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago

Imagine the Tik Toks.

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[–] Frank@hexbear.net 65 points 1 month ago (1 children)

1.) If you see the flash move away from the windows. They're gonna explode like grenades in a second or two. Get down behind something. Once the blast wave passes stay in cover because it's gonna come back from the other direction as the blast wave collapses in to the vacuum created by the explosion

2.) TURN OFF THE GAS. Much of the devastation in Japan was caused by out of control gas fires.

3.) Fill the tub and any containers with water ASAP.

4.) Seal up the house as much as you can. It'll keep some of the fallout outside until it settles.

5.) Cover your nose and mouth. An N95 is ideal but anything, even a rag soaked in water, is better than nothing.

6.) If you're instructed to evacuate move away from the debris plume at a right angle. If the wind is blowing all the fallout south you want to go east or west to get out from under the fallout as soon as possible.

7.) If you survive the initial blast and don't die of radiation poisoning your biggest radiation risk is going to be ingesting irradiated material. Filter all water. Avoid water from the fallout zone. Use bottled or stored water as much as possible.

8.) If you've got them take iodine tablets. This will flood your system with iodine causing your body to pass excess iodine out. This may prevent radioactive iodine from accumulating in your thyroid.

Subscribe to NUKEFAX for more nuclear survival tips!

[–] CredibleBattery@hexbear.net 20 points 1 month ago
[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 41 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Rule #1 is actually don't live near nuclear silos.

If there is a war, whoever the US will be exchanging with will target capacity for more strikes. So, they will target those sites. I hear many of them are in the midwest and throughout that expanse. So, you shouldn't live in those rural areas either if you're close to one.

Although cities will also be targeted, especially if there are secret nuclear silos that the other country knows about. I have no doubt in my mind they use cities as human shields for nukes.

[–] Sulvor@hexbear.net 37 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Dont forget places where airplanes, submarines, and other nuclear-capable vehicles are stored.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whiteman_Air_Force_Base

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 48 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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[–] Weedian@hexbear.net 27 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I live near a nuclear submarine repair shipyard, a naval air base, a joint army/air force base, and a major airport. I'm gonna be an ash shadow on a wall

[–] bbnh69420@hexbear.net 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

At least make it look like you were jerking off for the alien archaeologists

[–] Weedian@hexbear.net 23 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Look like? Baby I'm gonna be cranking that hog like there's no tomorrow, because there won't be

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 28 points 1 month ago

Rule #1...

It's far more complicated than that. The nuclear sponge is Colorado, Montana, Nebraska, North Dakota, and Wyoming.

Welcome to America's "Nuclear Sponge" - Defense One

The United States currently deploys hundreds of nuclear missiles across Colorado, Montana, Nebraska, North Dakota, and Wyoming. Each missile carries a nuclear payload many times more powerful than the Hiroshima bomb, capable of killing hundreds of thousands of people. The Pentagon is now planning to build a new, deadlier generation of these missiles, which are housed in underground silos.

But these intercontinental ballistic missiles, or ICBMs, are not meant to be launched, ever. Not even in a nuclear war. Their primary mission is to be destroyed in the ground, along with all the people that live anywhere near them. Their main purpose is to “absorb” a nuclear attack from Russia, acting as a giant “nuclear sponge.” Such is the twisted logic of atomic warfare.

[Continues]

[–] Spongebobsquarejuche@hexbear.net 23 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

I thought Russia wouldn't invade Ukraine because it was an obvious trap to ensnare Russia in a quagmire. But now assessing the situation years later, nah, the west is the one who's stuck. Russia hasn't gone full blown war. Didn't occupy. And really is sapping western resources.

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[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I live just far enough from one of the largest cities and industrial centers jn the US to recieve minor 1st degree burns at best from the Tsar Bomba. Gonna be a hell of a life

[–] urmums401k@hexbear.net 17 points 1 month ago

so I'm screwed.

In the nuclear Apocalypse fuck pile, yeah.

[–] BountifulEggnog@hexbear.net 50 points 1 month ago (3 children)
[–] bbnh69420@hexbear.net 41 points 1 month ago (1 children)

-me, feb 2022, days prior to obliterating my predictive credibility with my partner

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ukraine? I was in discord talking to a Russian friend when it popped off and both of us were certain it wasn't gonna happen lol

[–] bbnh69420@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Tbh days was being generous to me, the day of I was so secure that they were lies about Russian buildup and they were just exercises and that it wasn’t going to be anything. And then I was wrong 😢

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[–] Sulvor@hexbear.net 34 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Nothing ever happens gang winning since the Cuban Missile Crisis

[–] Tabitha@hexbear.net 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

can my Nothing ever happens be carry-out?

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[–] take_five_seconds@hexbear.net 49 points 1 month ago

who cares? if we do we'll still have to go to work.

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 45 points 1 month ago (4 children)

It's more possible now than a month ago for sure, but I'd still say fairly unlikely. That's a real big move that it seems like Russia doesn't need to take. They could achieve the retaliation they would need with just like a whole bunch of conventional weapons. That being said I don't know shit, I didn't think the war itself was gonna happen. Using a nuke is real extra, if they send one they'd better send em all cause the consequences of using one nuke militarily isn't a situation they could come out of without using enough nukes there could be no retaliation and I don't know if Ukraine is worth that.

[–] MemesAreTheory@hexbear.net 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There's just no way that there isn't retaliation. We're still operating under MAD. Between air force, Navy, and ICBMs, there's too many nukes on both sides that dozens but more probably hundreds of millions of people would die. The entire point of the Ukraine war is to prevent NATO from getting any closer and possibly sticking nukes (or targets that would invoke a nuclear response from NATO) within striking distance such that retaliation couldn't occur in time to sustain MAD. It's very similar to the Cuban/Turkish standoff that occurred at the height of the cold war. I see the change in doctrine more matching the US' first strike policy and Russia trying to assert itself as a world power again. They're putting those words into action with their current military endeavors and diplomatic moves, but statements like these are continuous opportunities for the West to pull their heads out of their asses and recognize the change in reality beneath them.

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago (2 children)

There will for sure be retaliation but I doubt it'll be with nuclear weapons at least in the near-ish future. MAD, despite its ghoulishness has worked and really us the only way to keep the world in balance after nuclear bombs were invented. It's ugly but it kept Korea, Vietnam and God knows how many places potentially from being a nuclear crater. We know America was down to use nukes at will to get what it wanted before the soviets got the a bomb and fundamentally little has changed in that regard. So yeah, I agree. It's been shown that nato winning the war on behalf of Ukraine is only possible through the destruction of the earth and I don't think it's quite important enough for that. But I also don't think they'll back down without doing something really stupid first.

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[–] MasterBlaster@lemmygrad.ml 44 points 1 month ago (1 children)

don't worry OP you can just adopt a survivalist lifestyle. just build a bunker lmao it's not hard. if you're in the states you're double ok because there's a billion guns so everyone can have a decent kit and operate to their hearts content. just remember to bulk order canned food and an israeli civilian gas mask. it will be just like fallout!! or maybe even stalker. how epic would that be?

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 36 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] WhatDoYouMeanPodcast@hexbear.net 17 points 1 month ago

Listened to the song for the first time in forever. Thank you

[–] WhatDoYouMeanPodcast@hexbear.net 34 points 1 month ago

"nothing ever happens"

"but chudda, what if-"

"it won't.”

[–] SocialistDovahkiin@hexbear.net 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is probably a weird thread to drop this but it's relevant as any.

"nothing ever happens" is a silly argument. Things absolutely happen, all of the time. Is the cutting off of water and food from Gaza nothing? Are people forcibly drafted into fighting in the Ukraine proxy war nothing? Are the disabled friends and family dying from the deeply misanthropic Covid policies in the west nothing?

Things happen a LOT. They just haven't happened to you ("you" in this case being whatever person genuinely thinks nothing ever happens) yet so you think they can't happen to you. They will and it will probably suck ass.

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[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 21 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Give it a year and ask again

Right now, I'd say the chances are low but rising

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[–] Esoteir@hexbear.net 20 points 1 month ago (2 children)

i'll leave this advice from the JP case of sonic the hedgehog 1 and 2 for the mega drive no-copyright

[–] GeorgeZBush@hexbear.net 14 points 1 month ago

Based JP Classic Sonic quoter

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[–] Des@hexbear.net 18 points 1 month ago (3 children)

nuke war no. H1N1 pandemic yes

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[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 18 points 1 month ago

All I'm saying is we better hope those aliens in the ocean are real, lmao

[–] CredibleBattery@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

i look forward to the prospect of becoming a War Boy and dying in a really interesting/stupid way to make the spectacle line go up

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[–] Frank@hexbear.net 14 points 1 month ago (3 children)

https://thebulletin.org/doomsday-clock/

The Bulletin of Atomic Scientists has us at 90 seconds to midnight. Not ideal.

[–] CantaloupeAss@hexbear.net 17 points 1 month ago

The original NYTimes needle

[–] FortifiedAttack@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This clock is meaningless drivel.

We're really at 2 seconds before midnight if this was updated regularly and accurately.

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