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submitted 1 month ago by LibsEatPoop@hexbear.net to c/chat@hexbear.net

Cuz I wanna know if I need to create and finish a bucket list if that’s the case lmao.

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[-] john_browns_beard@hexbear.net 61 points 1 month ago

I'm gonna say not a chance, but then again I also was adamant that Putin would never invade Ukraine, sooo...

Rule #1 of nuclear war is don't live in or near a major city, so I'm screwed.

[-] DefinitelyNotAPhone@hexbear.net 75 points 1 month ago

On the contrary, rule #1 of nuclear war is live directly next to a major target so you get the instantaneous atomization death over the cancer-and-famine option.

[-] AmericaDelendaEst@hexbear.net 21 points 1 month ago

Not everyone in Hiroshima or Nagasaki died instantly

[-] hotspur@hexbear.net 18 points 1 month ago

Yes, and try and live close to the center of where you think the nuke would be targeted. If it comes, you’ll be vaporized instantly with no awareness. Depending on the size of the nuke, if you’re outside of that radius, you get shockwave, firestorm and fallout depending on distance, and while you will almost certainly die, it may not be quick and painless.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago

Idk it would be pretty neat to see the blastwave.

[-] MayoPete@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago

Imagine the Tik Toks.

[-] hotspur@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago

Got to see blast wave, lost my eyes due to exploding window, worth it.

[-] Tabitha@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago

if it comes, you’ll be vaporized instantly with no awareness.

but what if you're opening the fridge for a late midnight muckbang video with a last minute sponser and then suddenly the initial shockware knocks you into the fridge and when you get out all your manikins are on fire?

[-] hotspur@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago

Well, yeah, there is that possibility.

[-] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago

If you're close enough, the shockwave is fast enough that the heat generated from the speed of the shockwave would instantly vaporize your body.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 65 points 1 month ago

1.) If you see the flash move away from the windows. They're gonna explode like grenades in a second or two. Get down behind something. Once the blast wave passes stay in cover because it's gonna come back from the other direction as the blast wave collapses in to the vacuum created by the explosion

2.) TURN OFF THE GAS. Much of the devastation in Japan was caused by out of control gas fires.

3.) Fill the tub and any containers with water ASAP.

4.) Seal up the house as much as you can. It'll keep some of the fallout outside until it settles.

5.) Cover your nose and mouth. An N95 is ideal but anything, even a rag soaked in water, is better than nothing.

6.) If you're instructed to evacuate move away from the debris plume at a right angle. If the wind is blowing all the fallout south you want to go east or west to get out from under the fallout as soon as possible.

7.) If you survive the initial blast and don't die of radiation poisoning your biggest radiation risk is going to be ingesting irradiated material. Filter all water. Avoid water from the fallout zone. Use bottled or stored water as much as possible.

8.) If you've got them take iodine tablets. This will flood your system with iodine causing your body to pass excess iodine out. This may prevent radioactive iodine from accumulating in your thyroid.

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[-] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 41 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Rule #1 is actually don't live near nuclear silos.

If there is a war, whoever the US will be exchanging with will target capacity for more strikes. So, they will target those sites. I hear many of them are in the midwest and throughout that expanse. So, you shouldn't live in those rural areas either if you're close to one.

Although cities will also be targeted, especially if there are secret nuclear silos that the other country knows about. I have no doubt in my mind they use cities as human shields for nukes.

[-] Sulvor@hexbear.net 37 points 1 month ago

Dont forget places where airplanes, submarines, and other nuclear-capable vehicles are stored.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whiteman_Air_Force_Base

[-] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 48 points 1 month ago
[-] RangeFourHarry@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago
[-] Weedian@hexbear.net 27 points 1 month ago

I live near a nuclear submarine repair shipyard, a naval air base, a joint army/air force base, and a major airport. I'm gonna be an ash shadow on a wall

[-] bbnh69420@hexbear.net 20 points 1 month ago

At least make it look like you were jerking off for the alien archaeologists

[-] Weedian@hexbear.net 23 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Look like? Baby I'm gonna be cranking that hog like there's no tomorrow, because there won't be

[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 28 points 1 month ago

Rule #1...

It's far more complicated than that. The nuclear sponge is Colorado, Montana, Nebraska, North Dakota, and Wyoming.

Welcome to America's "Nuclear Sponge" - Defense One

The United States currently deploys hundreds of nuclear missiles across Colorado, Montana, Nebraska, North Dakota, and Wyoming. Each missile carries a nuclear payload many times more powerful than the Hiroshima bomb, capable of killing hundreds of thousands of people. The Pentagon is now planning to build a new, deadlier generation of these missiles, which are housed in underground silos.

But these intercontinental ballistic missiles, or ICBMs, are not meant to be launched, ever. Not even in a nuclear war. Their primary mission is to be destroyed in the ground, along with all the people that live anywhere near them. Their main purpose is to “absorb” a nuclear attack from Russia, acting as a giant “nuclear sponge.” Such is the twisted logic of atomic warfare.

[Continues]

[-] Spongebobsquarejuche@hexbear.net 23 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I thought Russia wouldn't invade Ukraine because it was an obvious trap to ensnare Russia in a quagmire. But now assessing the situation years later, nah, the west is the one who's stuck. Russia hasn't gone full blown war. Didn't occupy. And really is sapping western resources.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago

It occurs for me that, just as America is run by a lot of ancient Cold Warriors who always thought on some level they could win the big one, there are probably surviving Cold Warriors, including Putin himself, for which NATO encroachment to within a few hundred km of Moscow and 0 warning short range missile launches has been a nightmare scenario for almost seventy years.

I'd never thought about it before, but that might be a big factor in their math. They've got to have decades of worst case war plans for what NATO would be capable of if they completed encirclement.

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago

Chapo did an excellent interview with Norman Finkelstein a while ago where Norm points out the Early Life section of Putin's Wikipedia page:

Putin's birth was preceded by the deaths of two brothers: Albert, born in the 1930s, died in infancy, and Viktor, born in 1940, died of diphtheria and starvation in 1942 during the Siege of Leningrad by Nazi Germany's forces in World War II.[29][30]

Putin's mother was a factory worker, and his father was a conscript in the Soviet Navy, serving in the submarine fleet in the early 1930s. During the early stage of the Nazi invasion of the Soviet Union, his father served in the destruction battalion of the NKVD.[31][32][33] Later, he was transferred to the regular army and was severely wounded in 1942.[34] Putin's maternal grandmother was killed by the German occupiers of Tver region in 1941, and his maternal uncles disappeared on the Eastern Front during World War II.[35]

He infers from this that Putin seems to have grown up in the shadow of the ravages of the Nazi invasion of the USSR, which notoriously went how it went in part because Stalin underestimated how quickly the Nazis would attack. He took a passive approach despite the Nazis being on his doorstep and something like 20 million Soviet civilians died for it.

This isn't to lay very much blame on Stalin, I don't know enough about the situation to do so, but it does lend itself to the lesson that when scratched liberals are right there, existentially threatening you, you don't just wait for them to pull the trigger.

Norm put it much better than I could have. I believe it's buried somewhere in this episode: https://soundcloud.com/chapo-trap-house/718-the-view-feat-norman-finkelstein-32823 which is mostly about other things.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago
[-] Spongebobsquarejuche@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago

The West was certainly playing 'im not touching you' with Russia. Russia just called the bluff.

[-] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I live just far enough from one of the largest cities and industrial centers jn the US to recieve minor 1st degree burns at best from the Tsar Bomba. Gonna be a hell of a life

[-] urmums401k@hexbear.net 17 points 1 month ago

so I'm screwed.

In the nuclear Apocalypse fuck pile, yeah.

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