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[-] mctoasterson@reddthat.com 22 points 6 days ago

Knowledge is knowing Frankenstein wasn't the monster.

Wisdom is knowing he was.

[-] your_moms_account@hexbear.net 10 points 6 days ago

Hate when people say this. The monster does horrible things to innocent people, whereas Victor doesn't really do anything out of malice. And everyone always talks about what a fine gentleman Victor is every time they mention him.

Moreover the quote is basically, "knowledge is repeating a fact you heard somewhere, wisdom is repeating a glib misinterpretation you heard somewhere"

[-] mctoasterson@reddthat.com 2 points 6 days ago

Tongue was pretty far planted in cheek as I was saying this.

[-] Commiejones@hexbear.net 6 points 6 days ago

Pedantry is asserting that as Dr. Frankenstein's creation/child the monster should by all rights be called Mr. Frankenstein.

[-] AnarchoBolshevik@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 6 days ago

And I gave my heart to know wisdom, madness and folly, and I perceived that all is vanity and vexation of spirit. For in much wisdom is much grief, and he that increaseth knowledge, increaseth sorrow.

[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 59 points 1 week ago

Oh this shit again

THE ENTIRE POINT OF FRANKENSTEIN IS AN ALLEGORY FOR THE ACT OF CREATION

FRANKENSTEIN MADE A LIVING THING WITHOUT CONSIDERING THE RESULT AND IN DOING SO, DROVE HIS CREATION TO ACTS OF MALICE AND MADNESS!

WE ARE ALL MADE VICTIMS, WE ARE ALL MADE MONSTERS!

[-] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 13 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Did I request thee, Maker, from my clay

To mould me man? Did I solicit thee

From darkness to promote me?

[-] HexaSnoot@hexbear.net 4 points 6 days ago

I thought this was from the story of the Golem.

[-] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 7 points 6 days ago

It's actually from Paradise Lost by John Milton, Adam says it when he is becoming defiant towards God. It's quite a sad scene and a generally tragic story, but it's my favorite piece of literature. I've never read Frankenstein but I know it's quoted on the title page so thought it was fitting, even though I don't think Milton really thought we were created monsters as much as we become monsters but that's a different question. Even Satan laments and regrets his defiance and secretly admits to himself that God wasn't unfair towards him.

I'm not sure if Milton was influenced by a line from the story of the Golem though.

[-] take_five_seconds@hexbear.net 38 points 1 week ago

wow WOKE nerd actually READS BOOK

[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 26 points 1 week ago

I was reading chapter books when I was 5, I had to do for myself what my USAan schools refused to

[-] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Me too. Started with Treasure Island after I taught myself to read by memorizing the children's books my mom would read to me.

Didn't get to Frankenstein till I was in college but I actually wrote an entire essay on it as an allegory for creation but also as an allegory for man's desire to overcome death by creating something they would come to worship in a sense, in this case scientism.

[-] hexaflexagonbear@hexbear.net 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

That's because the USian schools were trying to teach you the winners mindset of delegating your readungs to some egghead at coles notes.

[-] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago

Whoa was Frankenstein actually antinatalist???

[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 20 points 1 week ago

More about parental responsibilities really

If Frankenstein had cared more for his creation, then his creation wouldn't have gone off the deep end

[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 39 points 1 week ago

I fucking hate Western politics. This culture war shit is just brainrot

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[-] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 35 points 1 week ago

The woman writer made Frankenstein woke, this is why they should've hired fans

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[-] TerminalEncounter@hexbear.net 29 points 1 week ago

...did they read the book?? You cant really help but feel bad for Adam (he called himself Adam at some point, been a while). He was absolutely right to wanna kill Frankenstein, Frankenstein created him and then was fucking awful about it

[-] RION@hexbear.net 4 points 6 days ago

Iirc the phrasing is like "I ought to have been thy Adam," so more of him evoking the biblical theme than advancing it as a name he'd like to go by

And also... Bro did kill one child and two adults that had absolutely nothing to do with his anguish. Definitely pitiable but not exactly in the right

[-] plinky@hexbear.net 17 points 1 week ago

orphaned child rejected by society and parents

this says a lot about science and creation of life over-your-head

(i also remember feeling very bad for the guy)

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[-] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Is this satire? Must be a slow news day if they’re caring about universities discussing books they haven’t read in ways they don’t like. They say that as if they haven’t been trying to do the Draco in Leather Pants trope over the goddamn confederacy or Nazi Germany.

What’s the matter? Not enough brown people to fearmonger over?

[-] MaoTheLawn@hexbear.net 12 points 1 week ago

It's from 2018, but not satire.

[-] VILenin@hexbear.net 10 points 1 week ago

I imagine the following path to publication:

Some Nazi incel STEMlord is forced by the woke SJW cabal to READ a BOOK in COMMIE LITERATURE GE class 1984 —> whines about it to his shithead parents in the hopes they sue the school for violating his rights —> Shithead parents make a phone call to their friend who writes ragebait articles for a nazi tabloid hoping to ride the coattails into a fox news appearance

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 20 points 1 week ago

Nonwoke take on one of the oldest monster stories of all times: MONSTER BAD AND UGLY AND EVIL KILL IT KILL IT I AM VERY HEROIC grillman

[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 19 points 1 week ago

I bet I could take Frankenstein. He'd be crying because he was woke and respects women and I'd fucking punch him so hard, probably kill him.

[-] AnarchoBolshevik@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 6 days ago

All that I once loved lies in a shallow grave.

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 18 points 1 week ago

As long as you're cool, calm, and collected you can just evade and hit weak points. smuglord

[-] buh@hexbear.net 14 points 1 week ago

They didn’t have BJJ when Frankenstein was invented, I bet I could get him in a chokehold

[-] TerminalEncounter@hexbear.net 9 points 1 week ago

You might be able to do a CQC hug and then tell him "it's not your fault" as a finisher

[-] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 9 points 1 week ago

"Now let me tell you about Goblin Slayer"

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[-] DengistDonnieDarko@hexbear.net 18 points 1 week ago

when I was in high school I was in the teacher's supply closet and stole a copy of Frankenstein that one of the other classes was reading. I'm 100% sure if I just asked my teacher to borrow a copy she wouldve lent it to me no questions asked. it had this cover art

this is unrelated to the thread but it's a fun little memory I share when I remember Frankenstein is a thing.

[-] wtypstanaccount04@hexbear.net 2 points 6 days ago

oh hey that's the book cover I read it with

[-] MaoTheLawn@hexbear.net 21 points 1 week ago

that's not Frankensteins monster

that's just some guy

[-] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 16 points 1 week ago

Frankenstein's neighbor.

[-] your_moms_account@hexbear.net 16 points 1 week ago

It looks so much more like Frankenstein's monster than the pop culture thing does.

Information about its appearance in the book: a bigger-than-average human sewn together from large bits of corpses.

That looks like it.

[-] MaoTheLawn@hexbear.net 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

True, much more accurate than Mr Bolt Through The Neck, but in my mind the stitching was always more apparent, and the parts less perfect in their symmetry.

[-] CupcakeOfSpice@hexbear.net 2 points 6 days ago

I could be remembering wrongly, but wasn't the creature described as being uncannily attractive? Like maybe not conventionally so, but in some indescribable and uncomfortable way?

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[-] DengistDonnieDarko@hexbear.net 15 points 1 week ago

imagine someone taking your picture then telling you "this is for my book about a MONSTROUS FREAK who KILLS PEOPLE"

oh ... okay .... kitty-birthday-sad

[-] AnarchoSnowPlow@midwest.social 13 points 1 week ago

Nah nah nah nah, the big brain take here is that this is Poe's law in action and the writer is a plant who's been waiting for their moment.

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