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Personally, I don't* but I was curious what others think.

^*^some sandwiches excluded like a Cubano or chicken parm; those do require cooking.

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[-] Corno@lemm.ee 34 points 6 days ago
[-] Etterra@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago

Which means that it might be, depending on the sandwich. For example, you cook a panini or grilled cheese.

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[-] CrimeDad@lemmy.crimedad.work 65 points 6 days ago

I don't think it's cooking unless you are applying heat to cause a chemical reaction. So, making a grilled cheese sandwich counts as cooking, but a BP&J does not.

[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 21 points 6 days ago

Making ceviche or sushi officially not cooking confirmed - how dare those posers call themselves sushi chefs.

[-] Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works 46 points 6 days ago

gotta cook the rice for sushi. checkmate.

[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 7 points 6 days ago

Sashimi: do I not even exist, bro?

[-] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Slap a whole fish down in front of you.

You: "Not cooked"

slice fillet of fish off and present it.

You: "Not cooked"

slice fillet into small bite size pieces and squirt some neon green horseradish next to it

You: "Dis is cooked!"

?

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[-] Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works 8 points 6 days ago

Ha, you actually believe in Sashimi? Crazy.

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[-] SARGE@startrek.website 13 points 6 days ago

I think of a chef as a "preparer of food" not necessarily "food cooker"

So sushi chef is still accurate to their opinion, disclaimer I agree with them so I could always be rationalizing it.

[-] Num10ck@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

chef is french for chief. they are the head of the kitchen.

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[-] CrimeDad@lemmy.crimedad.work 8 points 6 days ago

Some of the constituent ingredients have to be cooked, but ceviches and sushi rolls aren't cooked any more than salads or burritos. They're assembled or prepared.

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

You're ignoring the chemical process in ceviche.

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[-] psilotop@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago

It's only cooking if it's done in the Cooke region governed by the Earle of Sandwich. Anything else is sparkling food preparation.

[-] Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works 31 points 6 days ago

Cooking (in the English I was taught) involves the application of heat - frying, baking, roasting, boiling etc are the names for specific ways to do this. A sandwich would be made or prepared.

[-] tiddy@sh.itjust.works 12 points 6 days ago

Some go as far as saying cooking requires a chemical change, else youre just heating

[-] Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works 10 points 6 days ago

Yeah - an application of heat to create a chemical change. You’re correct there. My answer was incomplete.

[-] morbidcactus@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Just for the heck of it, if you heat protein enough to denature it but have no Maillard reaction (let's say you've just made a hard boiled egg), would that not be considered cooking by that definition?

My understanding is that denaturing is a physical structure change, not a chemical one (and according to Wikipedia can be reversible in some cases), not a biochemist or food scientist though so totally accepting that my understanding is incorrect/incomplete.

[-] obinice@lemmy.world 33 points 6 days ago

No, it's food preparation but nothing is being cooked.

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[-] jewbacca117@lemmy.world 23 points 6 days ago

No one ever says "I'm cooking a sandwich"

[-] pruwybn@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 6 days ago

Maybe a panini.

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[-] Boozilla@lemmy.world 17 points 6 days ago

IMO, assembling a sandwich from ready-to-eat ingredients without using a stove, oven, microwave, etc. is meal prep, not cooking. If you roast, saute, toast, smoke, or even zap any part of it, now you're cookin'. (Though zapping might just be reheating something that was cooked previously. Ugh, this is more complicated than it should be. English can be frustrating.)

[-] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 6 points 6 days ago

Personally I'd define cooking as something that creates an irreversible physical or chemical change using heat.

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[-] hperrin@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago

If you cook it, like a grilled cheese, then yes. Otherwise, it’s sandwich arts.

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[-] KingJalopy@lemm.ee 14 points 6 days ago

The word cooking, to me, means using heat with a stove. Baking is for the oven. Grilling, is outside on a grill. But a sandwich is only ever "made" in my house. "Will you make me a sandwich?", "I'm making a sandwich"

Good question though. Never thought about it.

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[-] untorquer@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago

The specific language you speak has significant impact here. For some, "to make food* is used to refer to cooking. Where as in English it's not so clear. I prefer the use in terms of survival. IMO, if you can make any food enough to survive you can cook, because in English there is not a better colloquial verb. Though i wouldn't call you 'a cook' or 'a chef' if you can't apply heat to produce edible food from raw.

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[-] rapadura@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

Cooking is a process of transformation, both physical and symbolic. Combining ingredients intentionally to create something flavorful and nutritious, making a sandwich certainly falls under the act of cooking.

[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 11 points 6 days ago

Nope. In English, if it doesn't involve the application of heat, you ain't cooking, you're preparing, making, or other terminology.

[-] LordGimp@lemm.ee 4 points 6 days ago

So toasting a sammich is cooking, but making the sammich isn't?

[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 days ago

Pretty much, yeah. Same as grilling a burger and putting it on bread is cooking despite the bread being pre-made.

Afaik, cooking isn't limited to applying heat to raw foods.

Might be worth saying that I don't remember which dictionary the definition came from, and that dictionaries only record language, they don't prevent changes over time. Which means that usage could have changed enough since the last time I looked at any, and now have a different usage added

[-] TheButtonJustSpins@infosec.pub 11 points 6 days ago

Depends on the sandwich. If you're constructing a sandwich without using heat, I would consider that "making lunch" or "making dinner" but not explicitly cooking. I'm not sure that the difference matters in any significant situations, though. Why are you asking?

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 11 points 6 days ago

Why are you asking?

Boredom.

The question is inadequatly phrased. You must describe what kind of sandwich we are speaking of. Unless op is speaking about cold sandwiches exclusively, many sandwiches require cooking.

Croque Monsieur

Grilled Cheese

Cubano

Monte Cristo

Panini

These are just a few that I came up with off the top of my head. I'm sure there are many more.

[-] lvxferre@mander.xyz 7 points 6 days ago

I guess that it depends on context? Typically I wouldn't call it cooking, as it doesn't involve applying heat to the food. But if I were to teach a kid how to cook, then I'd consider it cooking - as teaching them how to prepare a sandwich would be a good start.

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[-] pseudo@jlai.lu 1 points 4 days ago

It you cook the sandwich, the bread, or any part of the filling, yes. If you toast your bread and warm up your ingredients in a pan, why not ? But if you are just cuting and filling. You're assembling a sandwich, not cooking it.

"Cooking" to me, requires the combination of ingredients AND heating them to create a new thing. Making a grilled cheese is basic, but cooking. Slapping meat, cheese and veg on bread is not cooking.

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[-] TootSweet@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

If someone told me they "cooked themselves a BLT", I'd assume they meant they'd baked the bread, fried the bacon, and emulsified the mayonnaise themselves and the slicing and assembly were just the final parts of the process.

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[-] andrewta@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

I guess it would depend on the type of sandwich

. Peanut butter and jelly? No

A simple cheese sandwich? No

Grilled cheese sandwich? Yes

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[-] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

Ehhh food preparation more than cooking. You're just assembling things. I'm a pro at a good sandwich if I do say so myself. Sometimes I have to cook to make that happen. But a basic sandwich...nah, no cooking involved.

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 5 points 6 days ago

By that logic, salads and sushi aren't cooking.

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[-] TerkErJerbs@lemm.ee 5 points 6 days ago

Put butter on the outside, throw it in a hot pan and grill it. Even go further and get a sandwich press. NOW YOU'RE COOKIN!

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