Seriously just get a PC lol. Roughly same price, no internet subscription fee, backwards compatible with every game ever made.
And the games are free
no internet subscription fee
Except for some of us 
To clarify, you can add a disc drive like you can with the current Digital Edition...for an extra $80.
So if you want this, a disc drive and a stand ($30), plus sales tax, that brings the whole package to about $870-$880. Well over $300 more than the vanilla Disc Edition at launch in 2020.
Edit: FORGOT, if you get a disc drive and don't want your console to look like shit, you'll also have to get at least one modified side plate for that side, bringing all this even closer to the $900 mark.
Microsoft now charges $75 a year just to play games online for the xbox
Fuck all consoles
Including a second controller and bits you need (stand, disc drive) this is £900 in the UK. That's almost $1200. Without a game.
Modern game graphics have killed the console market.
Serious question, is there a reason to get a second controller? Couch multiplayer is not that common anymore, especially with Sony titles.
Having a second controller is a psychological crutch in this way. It represents the eternal possibility of that friend who is just about to burst through the doorway and play video games next to you, like when you were kids. Now purely ceremonial.
Devastating and true.
It's midday on a Tuesday. You had no right...
Or you're a couple who plays together and/or you have kids.
Well, you'll definitely want a second controller because the PS5 controller sticks are well known for very quickly developing problems like severe stick drift. So when your first controller inevitably goes bad, you'll want that spare, either as a replacement entirely, or as a backup while you spend weeks first arguing with Sony just to honor the agreement to fix their shit (if you're lucky enough to still be under warantee) and then shipping it to them and waiting far too long for them to return it, and then only to find they did nothing and have to go through the process all over again, to finally hopefully get back a fixed (for the time being) controller. So yes, a second controller is necessary, even if you only ever play solo.
Sony still doesn't even use Hall effect sticks? 8bitdo stay winning.
No, they have a separate elite controller with like $30UsD replaceable sticks. But that controller is a separate purchase too. Still not hall effect.
Blows my mind that Hall effect sticks are still not simply the default technology in all controllers these days. As far as I'm aware, there are zero downsides to them.
Don't know tbh, I still only have an old original PS4 I bought used. But a while back for a brief moment I looked into what it would cost to get a PS5, I read about the major problems people had with it and stick drift is a really big issue with the dualsense controller. What I've read since is that it has only gotten worse, and there are countless nightmare stories from people trying to return or replace them. Apparently there is a "pro" version of the controller that has been out since 2022 or something and it's main selling feature is that you can swap out the sticks. The sticks still have the same drift problems, mind you, they're just modular and swappable, so instead of having to buy an all new controller every year or so, you only have to pay for a new pair of sticks. But that controller alone like like $140 or something.
Sadly 8BitDo also has issues (bought an ultimate and the sticks slowly start reading less and less until I turn the controller off and on)
Only if you play a lot of fighting games with a friend on the couch
Which, these days...
I feel like this is mostly just relevant for Nintendo games at this point
If you dont wanna fix stick drift it is.
Perhaps not for big new Sony titles, but if you're a family / have kids you definitely want at least two as there's still lots of good couch multiplayer games out there.
If it's just for you then possibly for stick drift (rather than getting them later when they've gone up in price again) or because they still use a built-in battery instead of rechargeables, and they don't last very long by comparison (and that play time gets even lower as they age obviously).
$700 to play what 2 exclusives, wow.
Yeah, but at least the console comes preinstalled with every PS5 game (Astro's playroom)
The old assumption that consoles are cheaper is getting less and less tenable because the corpos need line to go up.
They seem to go back and forth on whether they're loss leaders subsidized by more expensive games and captive paid online services or mediocre hardware sold at a premium to their captive audience. Last gen was AFAIK the loss leader phase (and the one before that was outdated, dogshit hardware sold at a premium from the start), so now we're on to the squeezing their audience for as much as they can phase, and in another 5 years they'll do another loss leader console, and so on.
Seen a lot of gamers malding as they come to terms with video games being a mature art form that no longer automatically revolutionizes itself every year
lmao, there's been nothing worth playing on console in a while
i can't sit at a desk so i don't have a computer (i use a laptop instead), but i've been using my steam deck everyday and it's very cool and comfy and can run things pretty well
Astro Bot is fantastic but I’m not spending $400+ on a console just for one game
spectral super resolution
still rgb
Always.
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So my theory is, Sony already knows this generation is cooked, the PS5 cannot be saved, so they’re releasing the most cash-grabbing Pro version just to milk the Sony diehards.
At least according to themselves, Sony is making more money with Playstation right now than they ever have. They sold 60 million of these things. People just want a console to play Call of Duty and FIFA on, that the thing doesn't have exclusives is completely irrelevant to those people.
At the same point in the PS4’s life cycle, it had moved about 80 million units. They’ve sold decently but it’s a distinct drop from the prior gen.
What I'm thinking too. If they actually cared about this gen they'd be investing in games/studios.
They could save the generation by making any games for it. But they killed japan studio to make concord
Eight hundred euros?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
699 dollaridoos translates to 633 eurobucks, get fucked Sony
20 % vat + 
No disc drive
But 
T H E C L O U D 
This is why FF7: Rebirth is not on PC yet. Pissing me off SE. I might be 
sailing when you ever get around to releasing it ya skeleton warriors
Pretty sure Sony's time exclusivity is well over, so it isn't that. I have a bad feeling we're going to see an Epic exclusive coming next for the PC release.
Extremely common Sony L. I hope it torpedos the company into the grave cos all they do is torch considerable sums of money on the most useless unrepairable ewaste that no one buys.
This is a product for people looking for ways to frivolously spend their money and that have fully bought into the playstation lifestyle-brand/eco-system, which is certainly a group of people that exists. It's also a marketing tool, where every time they present some multiplatform game they can now have a little thing that says "best on ps5 pro" on the screen.
Ain't even any giant Enemy crabs or nothing. Gaming just isn't what it used to be
l m a o i was kinda waiting for this to come out to see if i was gonna ignore this 'generation' and yea i am
Yeah, fuck this generation of games. I just want GTA 6 but I can't justify paying that much for a PS5 just to play that game sometimes. I can't financially justify or have space for a gaming rig PC just for GTA 6 either, but I would definitely prefer the PC.
PS2 generation was the best leap forward. I blame Gen Z wokeness.
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