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[-] Dolores@hexbear.net 47 points 1 month ago

who the fuck is still thinking about john mccain fucking hell

[-] wild_dog@hexbear.net 35 points 1 month ago

liberals. they love that man more than their own children.

[-] roux@hexbear.net 22 points 1 month ago
[-] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 26 points 1 month ago

Heard some lib radio host glaze McCain just yesterday while drivingfor work, called him a war hero

I couldn't contain my anger so I yelled "HE WAS A WAR CRIMINAL! WHAT THE FUCK KIND OF HERO DROPS NAPALM ON INNOCENT CHILDREN?!?" guts-rage

[-] roux@hexbear.net 18 points 1 month ago

Sort of a "call coming from inside the house" thing when the US is a terror state.

[-] SeekTheDeletion@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago

my lib mom got upset when Trump mocked the USS John McCain cause it was disrespectful to both the man and the troops

i just don't get libs

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 26 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

who the fuck is still thinking about john mccain fucking hell

Wasn't there some McCain faildaughter on some LIB talk show that had the credentials of "MY FAAATHER" and whose conversations were varying versions of "MY FAAATHER?" I'm sure she's still at it somewhere.

[-] Dolores@hexbear.net 28 points 1 month ago

yeah she was on the View as a token dumbass

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

She got her ass fired, didn't she? Didn't they know who HER FAAATHER was?! maybe-later-kiddo

token dumbass

That means the rest of The View wasn't dumbasses, right? anakin-padme-2

[-] Dolores@hexbear.net 19 points 1 month ago

i'm not saying anyone on there is an intellectual heavyweight but the few clips i have seen from the view were basically all Mccain getting clowned on by basic liberals lol

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 19 points 1 month ago

So basically this, wine glasses included.

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[-] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 20 points 1 month ago

I remember his campaign tried to brand him as a 'maverick' when he was one of the biggest conservative dullards around

[-] wild_dog@hexbear.net 17 points 1 month ago

it's funny because it worked with the base, the problem was it was the base of the democrats instead lol

[-] fox@hexbear.net 41 points 1 month ago

The Nazis literally could not have ever won WW2 and anyone who argues against that is way too vested in learning about Nazi campaigns specifically

[-] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 24 points 1 month ago

I think it's the closest you could get to historical determinism. The only way for the Nazis to win was for them to not be Nazis. They lost the war the moment they started it. Germany was doomed even if they never went to war because fascist economics will demand that they do. The whole thing was a fuck because it was fundamental to their ideology.

There's some scenarios where they could have maybe gotten a draw (like forming an alliance with the US and UK to invade the USSR), but it would have still left them worse off than...not being nazis.

[-] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 month ago

forming an alliance with the US

Probably best case scenario for chuds. They're both ideologically aligned anyways, and there's a chance they figure out how to make a nuke before the Soviets

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 22 points 1 month ago

The same modern bazingas that believe billionaire vampires will personally invent miracle tech that'll undo the consequences of their own actions also tend to believe that nazi wunderwaffen was that close to turning everything around.

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 22 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

FACT: 99% of wonder weapon scientists quit right before finding the one that will sweep aside the slavic hordes

[-] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago

They won against France only because Allied generals thought it was a good idea to stick their neck into an obvious trap, and then German generals decided that they were absolute geniuses and could win whatever they want.

[-] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago

Yeah it turns out it really easy to win battles when you just surprise attack unmobilized neutral countries. When countries become mobilized and ally against you, horse carriages and bolt actions no longer cut it.

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago

Tiger tanks were the ZYBERTRUKKKS of their time, with similar performance reliability. pit

[-] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago

Dont know about that. Elon would never think to use a train to transport his vehicles with their own wheels. He's going to make a bigger cybertruck (cymi-truck) for you to use on the uberloop.

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago

He did claim that it would be easy to make actual combat vehicles out of ZYBERTRUKKKs, so I suppose those fall more into the category of the many, many "wunderwaffen" grifts that were being floated around the Fuhererbunker near the end of the war.

[-] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago

You know, I'd probably pay money to watch cybertrucks drive into battle for America. It'd be hilarious when the transmission gives out and the whole thing just explodes when it gets hit by BBs from an airsoft rifle.

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[-] SeekTheDeletion@hexbear.net 41 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

telling that all of these are reactionary daydreams and fantasies, and there's no progressive alternatives offered or discussed. Here are some of mine:

What if Lincoln had picked a radical abolitionist as his VP and after his assassination there was a massive anti-southern aristocracy crackdown to enforce reconstruction?

What if Kruschev didn't win the power struggle and instead Molotov did? What if the sino-soviet split never happened because Kruschev didn't get into power and immediately start shitting on and dismantling socialist achievement?

What if Stalin didn't stop at Berlin? What if the USSR discovered nukes before the west?

What if Lenin was not shot and didn't have health complications resulting from that?

What if the Spartacus Revolt was successful and the German Revolution joined with the USSR?

What if Napoleon defeated the British at Waterloo? What if Napoleon allied with the Haitians and revolutionaries of the new world instead of turning them into enemies? What if he supported a Haitian-African American take-over of the Louisiana territories?

[-] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 33 points 1 month ago

What if temperatures stayed stable in the Paleocene, resulting in the dawn of civilization around paleolake megachad?

[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 30 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Everybody has a really pronounced jawline, nothing else changes.

[-] destroyamerica@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 1 month ago

What if the Spartacus Revolt was successful and the German Revolution joined with the USSR?

unironically I believe we would all already be living under DOTPs by now cri

[-] SeekTheDeletion@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago

WW2 would have looked very different indeed. Socialists vs. Imperialists instead of the weird mishmash of socialists + imperialists vs. newer more vicious imperialists. The victory there would have been a victory for socialism instead of a descent into cold war against an untouched US.

[-] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago

What if Napoleon defeated the British at Waterloo?

He would be defeated in the next battle. He had already won at Ligny and Quatre Bras, and it didn't bring him a strategic victory, and neither would a victory at Waterloo.

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[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 40 points 1 month ago

If the initial push into France fails I'm pretty sure the nazis are deeply fucked lmao. I suggest opening 13 more fronts, that always seems to work.

[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 37 points 1 month ago

Alt History: Limitless possibilities, always how the Nazis can win

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 18 points 1 month ago

But Boogie1488 said le epic science was happening in Mengele's torture playgrounds! smuglord

[-] duderium@hexbear.net 31 points 1 month ago

Genre fiction writer here, 99% of genre fiction is fascist.

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 23 points 1 month ago

I learned that the hard way with my beta readers with my own work.

"Why is this so political? Can't it just be about a war with piloted robots?"

"The main character needs to have her naked body described in detail during a mandatory shower scene." (the character was a malnourished minor) libertarian-alert

"This is a butchering of the Ramayana. I am insulted by this sloppy portrayal of it." (the Ramayana was mentioned, yes, but it's a total fascist wet dream of a story and I deliberately dunked on its ideals in favor of the much more nuanced, thoughtful, and worthwhile Mahabharata)

[-] Poogona@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago

Even the Mahabharata is like a thorough endorsement of Patriarchal power structures but it's what makes mythology and its fuzzy ironic (ambivalent?) relationship with its historical context so interesting

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago

Even the Mahabharata is like a thorough endorsement of Patriarchal power structures

Yes, yes it is. Even after considering how ancient and grounded in patriarchal caste systems it always was, I'm nonetheless deeply impressed by how it plays out in the very long story. There's even a fairly-recent treatment written by a late 1800s writer that gives Draupadi a lot more agency and it was so good that some later theater treatments worked that addition in.

[-] Karma_404@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago

How is Ramayana a fascist story?

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I don't mean the modern concept of corporatism merged with a perpetual war economy. I use the term loosely for the mythological roots of typical fascist ideology: the idea of purity, especially purity in a patriarchal sense where a woman held captive by "impure" enemy forces must painstakingly, exhaustively, and perhaps even dangerously prove her "purity" to the patriarchal power. The sheer disposability of the armies at Rama's disposal, Rama's own ubermensch-like portrayal, the seemingly unchallenged militaristic pagaentry and absolutism strokes of the story are also what I meant by that.

The current right wing political powers in India invoke the Ramayana fairly regularly, and even if they don't have the exact uniforms that were around in WW2, yeah I call that a fascist movement.

https://theconversation.com/how-narendra-modis-cult-of-personality-was-formed-by-a-powerful-hindu-nationalist-group-with-a-dark-history-225280

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[-] kleeon@hexbear.net 29 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You are Hitler

I'd rather not

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 27 points 1 month ago

"You are Hitler..."

Inside of reddit-logo there are Hitler particles. They are everywhere there, but are especially concentrated in "what if nazis win and le science victory amirite" Boogie1488 takes. the-more-you-know

[-] Rom@hexbear.net 24 points 1 month ago

They're aware John McCain died in 2018 right?

[-] heggs_bayer@hexbear.net 23 points 1 month ago

pepe-silvia Here's how Hitler can still win!

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 18 points 1 month ago

"Hear me out... what if Le Epic John McCain... was actually the Ghost of Kiev?" so-true

[-] hamid@vegantheoryclub.org 6 points 1 month ago

I guess it is not a stretch for any of these people to imagine themselves as Hitler

[-] ashinadash@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The soviet union would have to not exist for the nazis to win, I think. Even without allied forces drawing german war materials away from the eastern front, there's no way they coulda beat the red army, I'm pretty sure.

Also though the nazis were gonna invade places that would bring them into conflict with the allies anyway, lol lmao

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