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A federal judge ruled that the jury hearing E. Jean Carroll’s defamation lawsuit will only need to decide how much money Donald Trump will have to pay her, after the judge found the former president was liable for making defamatory statements.

The finding is a significant blow to Trump, who is facing numerous criminal indictments and civil lawsuits – many of them coming to a head as he embarks on a presidential campaign.

Judge Lewis Kaplan said that a federal jury’s verdict earlier this year against Trump will carry over to the defamation case set to go to trial in January involving statements Trump made in 2019 about Carroll’s sexual assault allegations.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 93 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Keep 'em coming. You love to see it!

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

Just strip him off his wealth and through him in a dementia prison ward already. He's too demented to ever shut the fuck up.

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 63 points 1 year ago (8 children)

So... do you think he has the objectivity to regret all of his actions yet? Not regret as in that he did anything morally wrong because he's far too much a narcissist to think that. But rather regret that he put himself in the crosshairs to be actually held to account for the first time when he's previously been able to mostly get away with criminal shit his whole life.

If he hadn't run for office, he could have continued to be just another sleazeball rich gangster wannabe in New York and probably lived out the rest of his life without any real consequences for being a piece of shit. He'd have been insulated by low expectations and mostly being a forgettable joke of a man. But now that he poses a real and ongoing danger to the public and democracy itself, people are motivated to hold him liable for his dozens of crimes in several major high profile cases.

Do you think he wishes he'd have just stayed in Manhattan and continued screwing people over in his property deals and business schemes? I bet it keeps him up at night, and it should.

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Go back and look at the photo the night he won in 2016. Everyone else is smiling, clapping, and having a grand old time.

He is not.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

May he continue to not have an enjoyable time.

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

So it is written, let it be done.

[–] comedy@kbin.social 38 points 1 year ago

Remember the look on his face when he won? He was horrified! Same when he first met with Obama and they had a joint press conference. His body language was like, "oh fuck, what am I even doing here."

I think regret is hard for him though, because to regret something means you have to feel, in some way, you could have done something better or differently. You have to take ownership of bad feelings and in your part of bad outcomes. I just don't think his brain will let that happen. Everything bad is always someone else's fault.

But yeah...maybe in some dark, cobweb encrusted corner of his mind, he wishes he was just a NY scam artist and fake "tycoon." It served him well enough, as you noted.

[–] TheJims@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He’s incapable of all those feelings. His personality disorders won’t allow him to feel regret or remorse. On another note his personality disorder absolutely will not allow him to not respond to this decision by defaming Ms Carroll again.

[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Regret and Remorse correction: eric and don jr

[–] Elderos@lemmings.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

His ego is more important than his instincts of self-preservation. He ran on spite because he fucking hated Obama for some reasons, maybe for dunking on him on that special dinner. Anyway, he's too busy being in constant war mode to ever self-reflect. He thinks all he ever did is perfect, it's all Biden's fault you know.

[–] tym@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Don't discount the fact he could never impress his dad. Dudes on that kinda shit yknow?

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

I agree with the people saying he didn't really plan or expect to win, but I think you have to at least balance that with the fact that becoming president brought him more fame, more power, the adoration of millions of (disgusting) people, new avenues for bilking people out of their money, etc. No matter what the price that's gone along with it, I don't see any possibility that he regrets running/winning. As always, he just blames other people for anything bad that came from it

[–] Daisyifyoudo@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

He's not capable of regret

[–] squiblet@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

I think for him, the increase in fame, millions of adoring nitwits and ability to swindle vast amounts in a novel way makes up for it.

[–] xc2215x@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I think he regrets running for President now.

[–] xc2215x@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (4 children)

So many trials with this guy.

[–] troglodytis@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Can we get to the tribulations part?

[–] potterpockets@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago

Maybe all the winning he promised us was the numerous lawsuits against him along the way?

[–] June@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

The most trials. I hear they’re the best trials.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

The real trial was the friends we made along the way..

[–] Veraticus@lib.lgbt 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This one won't imprison him, but hopefully it will empty his pockets.

[–] negativenull@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

right before he needs cash for all his other trials.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's not like he ever pays his lawyers anyway.

[–] negativenull@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

I wouldn't doubt that some of them now are requiring pre-paid retainers first.

His lawyers are almost undoubtedly requiring retainer fees to cover everything. There’s no way they’d be stupid enough to work on contingency or expect to collect payment after the fact. He’s probably having to write them new checks for every single week that they continue working on his case, and I can guarantee that they’re getting the bank to verify those checks before they actually accept them.

[–] Veraticus@lib.lgbt 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Okay, fair, but also I love that as a general statement.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

That's fine. I want him locked up too. I just didn't want you to get your hopes up in this case.

[–] Granite@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago

If he COULD just stop lying for 2 seconds. But I do believe he is literally incapable.

[–] Gingerlegs@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago
[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't know civil case law well, but I have to think a jury being handed a summary judgement of fact to purely determine damages... can't be good.

[–] Specific_Skunk@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

They already found him guilty in the 2022 defamation case. The 2019 case is for the same thing (at a different time, he did it more than once) so the judgement effectively covers both cases. He’s already been found guilty, now it’s just time to determine damages. Again.

And if he keeps repeating the same lies, they’ll keep charging him. Now it’s just a game of “will he stfu or go broke first?” My chips are on “broke”.

[–] Cabrio@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago
[–] squiblet@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Has he or will he ever actually pay her anything, though?

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

IIRC he had to put the money in trust to appeal the first verdict, so she probably already has it her her bank account. He has way too much property to be judgement-proof.

I hope she beats him like a pinata.

[–] squiblet@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

That's great! I hope so. If it's not in a trust, even without being judgement-proof it can be difficult to get people to pay anything, like you have to pay people to physically seize their property or file additional lawsuits.