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[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 216 points 1 month ago

It's like when Sideshow Bob was running for Mayor and used ads denouncing Mayor Quimby for letting crooks like Sideshow Bob out of jail.

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 99 points 1 month ago

Vance isn’t nearly as intelligent as Bob. But I did laugh at the comparison.

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 36 points 1 month ago

Vance is a Yale grad and a best selling author. It's a good example of imposter syndrome; he's better than Trump in any possible way, but lacks the intestinal fortitude to be anything but a lickspittle.

A lot of the GOP leadership is not stupid. Some of them are very intelligent.They're just self-serving and morally bankrupt.

[-] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 12 points 1 month ago
[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 8 points 1 month ago

Hillbilly Elegy was a NY Times bestseller.

You can hate on the guy, but facts are facts.

[-] maniclucky@lemmy.world 30 points 1 month ago

Except that list gets manipulated all the time. It's a known practice to order shit tons of your own book, get on the list for a week, and hand them out (or resell them) later.

[-] Windex007@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Ok, I accept that, but it inevitably leads to the next question of "what metric would you accept to call oneself a bestselling authour?"

[-] maniclucky@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

By definition, bestselling is what it is. The question is "does bestselling mean they're a good author?" And that's what we have reviews for.

[-] Rinox@feddit.it 3 points 1 month ago

Probably something better than "it sold more than 1000 copies in a week". Especially when the author can indirectly buy all those copies with not that much money, just to claim the best selling title

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[-] barsquid@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

It just means it sold a number of copies, there is zero judgement on the content. Sometimes a campaign will launder money directly to a candidate by purchasing many copies of that candidate's book to give away. It is somehow legal.

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[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

Hillbilly Elegy was a NY Times bestseller.

Which book isn't?

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[-] eatthecake@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

TBH, I think a lickspittle probably needs quite a bit of intestinal fortitude

[-] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 154 points 1 month ago

"That's different! They're white!" -his inner monologue

[-] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 39 points 1 month ago

He immediately whataboutism'd BLM protests, so... yeah it was outer monologue too.

[-] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 103 points 1 month ago

The problem is that hypocrisy doesn't burn them. Logic doesn't matter.

You'll find conservative women against abortion who had an abortion, because "for them it was different".

You'll find them yapping about taxes and "big crime families" but when trump does it "he's just smart and using the system like everyone else".

You'll find them fed up with "giving away free stuff", when they all do sovcit shit and dodge taxes because "fuck biden or wtv".

They have upper class money, but for them it's different, "they aren't rich" and "daddy technically didn't even help".

Theyre all losers who think all their problems are caused by other people.

[-] Laser@feddit.org 42 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You'll find conservative women against abortion who had an abortion, because "for them it was different".

My favorite article was about some privileged women who were shocked when they found out that when abortion becomes illegal, they can't have abortions anymore.

Because for them, they were called "terminations". I couldn't make this up.

And then they had the gall to proclaim that they would have been the ideal people to show the importance of the matter. Of course, a matter is unimportant until it affects you, the privileged one.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/27/us/abortion-women-tfmr.html

Zero empathy or reflection. Kind of impressive.

[-] SSJMarx@lemm.ee 91 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You gotta be pretty incompetent to walk directly into that. Even if you're not sure where the interviewer is going, if you ever hear the phrase "so you agree that..." you cannot agree with whatever they're saying because that phrase indicates that you're walking into a logic trap.

[-] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 35 points 1 month ago

so you agree that...

Giant flashing "it's a trap" sign.

Ficking idiot walks straight into it.

[-] CasualPenguin@reddthat.com 30 points 1 month ago

Yeah but they get away with it because their audience only cares/is fed the stuff they agree with

Trump said the government should be allowed to take people's guns without due process (just breaking two constitutional amendments, NBD) and Republicans just had to wait a couple days and their voters forgot about it

[-] barsquid@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

It's a trap either way. Like asking Matt Gaetz if he agrees children should not be trafficked and raped by middle-aged adults. Any direct answer to that would make him look like a pedophile.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

That's why you aren't a politician (along with probably many other reasons). The correct response is something like: "there are certain actions that these protesters shouldn't be taking." You just totally avoid the question and pretend like you answered it.

[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 month ago

Logic traps only work on hypocrites though.

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[-] barsquid@lemmy.world 72 points 1 month ago

Pleasantly surprising to actually press even that hard during an interview. Interviews should be forcing candidates to explain themselves.

[-] akilou@sh.itjust.works 60 points 1 month ago

Can we get the actual clip?

[-] Dantpool@kbin.melroy.org 71 points 1 month ago

CNN Post with video. Quote starts at 1:07 mark

[-] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 59 points 1 month ago

I've never heard this guy talk so hearing his voice...

I mean, I'm not saying that I've ever talked to a couch fucker but....yeah, the voice sort of says couch fucker.

[-] macarthur_park@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago

There’s a reason that rumor spread so effectively

[-] magnetosphere@fedia.io 18 points 1 month ago

The author of the tweet never even tried to claim it was true, either. When the couch thing blew up, they even specifically said that it was just a joke. You’re exactly right, though. There’s just something about Vance that makes it seem believable.

[-] Serinus@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

Well, if you've read any of his Hillbilly Elegy, it fits. He does this weird oscillation where he talks about his humble roots, and then is incredibly condescending towards anyone in a similar situation.

Apparently he's better than that now.

He could talk about how he was so desperate he fucked his couch. But then, once he had money, he was able to attract an actual woman. He still occasionally fucks a couch, just for nostalgia, but all those other people who are still fucking couches are sad and gross.

It would blend right in.

[-] InternetUser2012@lemmy.today 16 points 1 month ago

Lets call it what it is. He fucks underage couches. That makes him a rapist. He's a couch rapist.

[-] Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 month ago

He read of therapist couches and messed up the spaces in the words

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[-] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Age of consent or not, I've never heard a couch talk, let alone consent.

It doesn't matter the type of material or the designer brand the couch is either, the couch isn't "dressed like it's asking for it." Unless it's enthusiastic affirmation, it's rape.

[-] MrVilliam@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

I've never asked so I can't say for sure that it's not impossible, but I've personally never heard a couch speak. Therefore, I'm not sure any couch is capable of consent. Ergo, all couch fucking is couch rape.

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[-] rambling_lunatic@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago

Vance's eyes look like the soul has vacated his body long ago

[-] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago

"well, you know... That happened three, ehh four years ago!"

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[-] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 48 points 1 month ago

The little couch fucking shit weasel. He had an answer and it wasn’t half bad. Then he redirected to his false equivalency bullshit.

[-] Sharkwellington@lemmy.one 21 points 1 month ago

That's the worst part, I agree with his point that we shouldn't have blanket prosecutions...just like we shouldn't have blanket pardons.

I think a good followup would have been "Do you believe it is also possible there are BLM protestors who likewise had the book thrown at them?" Bring it back to the question of why they think their "protest" is more acceptable than the BLM protests.

But it's weird, that didn't feel like a modern Republican interview exchange to me. Yeah he's doing the soundbites but he's actually responding with...logic rather than feelings? Or at least as close to logic as a Republican candidate can get these days.

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[-] andrewth09@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago

The interview equivalent of stepping on a rake.

[-] zaft@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago

What the fuck is with the eyeliner lol

[-] RegalPotoo@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago

All forms of gender-affirming care are valid and should be respected

[-] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 month ago

I respect Robert Smith wearing eyeliner. This bigoted fucker can eat shit, I'll criticize his eyeliner because it's a sign of his deep hypocrisy.

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[-] UrPartnerInCrime@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago

I'm all for gay people and would never bring extra attention to them, but if I see a closeted homosexual republican doing gay shit imma give em hell cause of the double standards.

[-] Etterra@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Is that crickets I hear? Heh wimp womb Vancey Pants.

[-] magnetosphere@fedia.io 3 points 1 month ago

This is fucking beautiful.

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