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submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by gpstarman@lemmy.today to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

I know this is a weird question. But I'm just wondering. Please don't kill me.

I do body weight exercises. And finding it harder to do exercises that want me to lay down on my front side. ^Because,^ ^my^ ^____^ ^is^ ^squishing^.^๐Ÿ˜ฎโ€๐Ÿ’จ^

Also, there is a stupid stigma that exercise makes women more masculine. But are there any workouts that make a man look feminine? Like, it would be bit weird to see a BLL sized butt on a man, right?


This question came to my mind when I saw a workout plan in my app. The plans' name is "Bikini Body". I was like, "I should probably stay away from this. But what happens if I did it anyway?"

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[-] RovingFox@infosec.pub 48 points 3 months ago

The stigma with excersises make women more masculin is because of the mentality that muscles are for men. Excersises will change your body and they will give you a new image but depends on you how you want to view it and choose people around you that view it the same way.

[-] gpstarman@lemmy.today 10 points 3 months ago

Thank You.

mentality that muscles are for men.

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[-] Delphia@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

A lot of the whole thing about women avoiding exercises because they dont want to look more masculine is ridiculous. Its like putting $50 in a savings account and worrying about the tax implications of your future millions, its not going to happen by accident.

[-] TerminalEncounter@hexbear.net 28 points 3 months ago

You may have never realized, but big ol bubble butt on a dude is considered very attractive lmao especially if it's muscle.

There's exercises that might make you leaner instead of bulkier but I don't think there's anything that can strictly feminize, I think this is the eternal struggle of self-styled femboys.

[-] gpstarman@lemmy.today 4 points 3 months ago

You may have never realized, but big ol bubble butt on a dude is considered very attractive lmao especially if it's muscle.

I do realize it. But, just wondering whats the limit, cause I've seen a dude on Youtube (it's a clip where the host got distracted by a man walking with a giant butt along with his bodyguards) with a massive butt.

[-] TerminalEncounter@hexbear.net 13 points 3 months ago

A big butt is masc. Ever seen baseball players? They got nice big butts. They get scouted at least partially on the sizes of their butts.

You will not exercise your way to a truly enormous giant butt. If that's your goal, I'm sorry that you likely won't achieve it. You can exercise to a big ol nice butt that can turn heads but I wouldn't worry about it being "feminizing" cause... plenty og hot dudes have big butts

[-] gpstarman@lemmy.today 3 points 3 months ago
[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 25 points 3 months ago

Nah, there's no such thing as an exercise that does what you're asking.

Ignoring the bullshit involved in gender norms, and ignoring the variances in different cultures, a cis man that went through male puberty isn't ever going to have the kind of body that would be considered feminine, on average, by exercise. Too much of what is considered feminine depends on boobs and hips. Boobs can't be exercised into existence, and you aren't going to change your skeleton enough to have the kind of hips that truly feminize a silhouette.

A cis man can definitely achieve androgynous looks, and can also shape their body to emphasize curves and such, but not by exercise.

Also, if your dick/balls are squishing, try different undies. You need better support, imo. My best friend is what you might call compact in frame, and is hung like a damn bull moose, but can do any exercise he wants because he has good support via well fitting undies. There's no single recommendation as per brand or style, but he's a briefs guy. I've worn boxer briefs for decades, and never had any issues when they were in good condition (though once they get a year or so of use, they loosen too much for comfort because the old frank n beans slide down the leg)

[-] TheFriar@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago

any cis man that went through male puberty isnโ€™t ever going to have the kind of body that would be considered feminine

Not necessarily true. Iโ€™m a cis male and Iโ€™ve always had a slender waist. If I really dedicated my workout to legs and glutes and just abominable with none of the side stomach muscles (Iโ€™m pretty new to working out and donโ€™t know the words) and I completely disregarded my upper body, my body would start to look more feminine. My body stores fat on my hips too, so no cardio? Yeah, Iโ€™d be one sexy lady bod.

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[-] gpstarman@lemmy.today 2 points 3 months ago
[-] RBWells@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

If you literally want to bulk your waist, obliques do build mass (to my despair) so that can give you a thicker look though there, but I thought that V shape with a small middle was idealized by bodybuilders?

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[-] Delphia@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago

If you want to avoid squishing your junk, I recommend buying some elasticated boxers that are just a LITTLE bit tighter than you would buy for every day wear. Keep your business pulled in close and tight.

As for avoiding workouts... theres a lot to unpack there. The short version is "You have the DNA you have" no amount of a "Bikini body" workout is going to give you tits or a BBL booty and any workout that mentions "Targeted fat loss" is bullshit. Situps do not burn belly fat. Workouts for bodybuilding and workouts for functional strength are different. Workouts for cardio and workouts for conditioning are different.

But what might build a bunch of muscle and functional strength for a 60kg woman might only qualify as a warmup for me, programs written for women will likely be different because (THIS IS NOT SEXISM) men on average carry more muscle as a percentage and less fat. Workouts programmed for women tend to have more cardio and lower weight. Not to say that you couldnt do that workout and hit it with intensity and get results, but its likely to be suboptimal.

If you're interested in learning more about exercise science Dr Mike Isratel of Renaissance Periodization on YT has some fantastic and easy to digest videos (not exactly geared for beginners but theres some very quality insights if you find the right videos.) As well as James Smith, Dr Pak, Jeff Nippard and their associated friends.

[-] gpstarman@lemmy.today 3 points 3 months ago

Thank you for the valuable insight.

(THIS IS NOT SEXISM)

It's sad that you got to mention this specifically. I almost got called sexist in this same comment section for asking this question. ๐Ÿ˜ฎโ€๐Ÿ’จ

[-] InputZero@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I think the term you're looking for is called Sexual Dimorphism, and I have only ever heard edge-lord-feminists call it sexism. Most feminists that I have met acknowledge it.

Edit: to be clear while the conversation of gender equity is in part concerned about sexual dimorphism, the human species as a whole is sexually polymorphic. However the discussion of Turner's syndrome, Klinefelter's syndrome, ect is tangentially related.

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If you're doing leg days so much that you're concerned about having an ass that is really just too big then honestly good for you

As a big ball haver yeah you gotta watch out doing pretty much everything I'm assuming you are wearing something to keep them from going all over the damn place

[-] gpstarman@lemmy.today 4 points 3 months ago

I'm assuming you are wearing something

I do. The struggle is real.๐Ÿ˜ฎโ€๐Ÿ’จ

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[-] averyminya@beehaw.org 15 points 3 months ago

The only one is being aware of good artery health and reducing overexertion as it can significantly increase your risk of stroke, and that the Navy has phased out crunches and sit-ups due to consistent spine injury, and the Marines later followed.

I'm no military lover, but if the people trying to exercise the people to fight our wars are phasing something out for health concerns... that's pretty significant.

[-] gpstarman@lemmy.today 5 points 3 months ago

I can see why Crunches affect spine..

Thank you.

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[-] whydudothatdrcrane@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago
[-] averyminya@beehaw.org 2 points 3 months ago

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[-] tiredofsametab@kbin.run 15 points 3 months ago

If your equipment is being squished, your surface may not have enough give.

[-] gpstarman@lemmy.today 3 points 3 months ago
[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 months ago

Alternatively, buy a lot of sugary drinks to make the otherside more squishy.

[-] makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml 14 points 3 months ago

Yeah, listen, I was doing my own exercises and I was everyday watching my wife doing her exercises, and then I realised "holly hell she is exercising way harder than I am", and working muscle groups that I really wanted to work so I gave up my routine and joined hers.

[-] Shard@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago
[-] gpstarman@lemmy.today 3 points 3 months ago

Dang it. I was just planning to do it this weekend.

[-] sevan@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 months ago

Any fitness physique you see on Instagram (male or female) took a ton of effort to achieve (and possibly some pharmaceutical or surgical assistance). You can pick any routine in the world and you are not at risk of looking like that unless you are really dedicated to it.

[-] MrPoopbutt@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

The analogy I tell people is that getting a look like that without using a specific program and requisite effort is like taking algebra 101 at a community college and expecting to get a PhD in math.

[-] Kuori@hexbear.net 6 points 3 months ago

The plans' name is "Bikini Body". I was like, "I should probably stay away from this. But what if I did it anyway?"

thonk-trans

[-] gpstarman@lemmy.today 6 points 3 months ago

Got me thinking too..๐Ÿ˜ฎโ€๐Ÿ’จ

[-] Kuori@hexbear.net 5 points 3 months ago

nothing wrong with experimenting! if you're curious about exercises that might give you a more femme shape you may be interested in (warning:reddit) https://www.reddit.com/r/sissyfitness/ which i'm told is highly inclusive and helpful.

[-] gpstarman@lemmy.today 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Probably I've worded my question badly. Because, femme shape is the thing that I don't want.

It might still help, because I can look that subreddit and avoid what is recommended there.

Thank You.

[-] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 months ago

I think exercise selection is a pretty personal thing. There are going to be exercises you like that feel good and some that you don't really get into. I'd say mix it up until you find a routine with exercises you enjoy or at least don't mind that still hit the muscle groups that you want.

I don't really know how to answer the rest of it. If you find exercises you enjoy and they are helping you towards whatever your goals are I'd say who cares what people think but that's just me.

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[-] ShareMySims@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 months ago

I would say the most beneficial thing you could do for yourself instead of investing energy in to avoiding "feminine" workouts, is to work on unlearning the toxic masculinity that has created these false, sexist, and bioessentialist ideas in your mind in the first place.

Once you've done that you'll be free to consider what exercises actually works best for you, rather than what exercises to avoid because you don't want to be considered "inferior" (by yourself and others who harbour toxic masculinity).

[-] gpstarman@lemmy.today 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

toxic masculinity false, sexist, and bioessentialist ideas you don't want to be considered "inferior"

I never said or even didn't thought any of these things.

A Man wanting Masculine body is sexist now ?

I don't know whether this is sExIsT ot not. But I do think there is certain body type that people love to see on their partners. And it differs from person to person. And as a person who just discovering the world, I'm just curious what other people's opinion is like. And just found out that not everyones' opinion is worth of my curiosity.

Maybe you should unlearn the way of seeing everything in the lens of toxic masculinity, sexist, inclusivity, etc.

The fact that people are doing this in a conscious manner is pretty weird itself. Like, Is that what people like you got in mind all the times regardless of the context?

Also, I don't like fact that clumping Masculinity with Toxicity became a exciting hobby for many people for whatever reason that only God may know. Which is sickening.

[-] apotheotic@beehaw.org 4 points 3 months ago

You should do workouts that align with your workout goals. If you're a man and you wanna do workouts that are gonna give you a dump truck ass and juicy thighs then fucking go for it. If you're a woman and you wanna do workouts that are gonna give you a body like Schwarzenegger, fucking go for it! If you wanna do workouts that are gonna do very little for your physical appearance but leave you fitter and healthier, do those!

Your workout plans should align with your workout goals, and your workout goals shouldn't be dictated by what someone else thinks isn't appropriate for your gender.

[-] gpstarman@lemmy.today 4 points 3 months ago
[-] apotheotic@beehaw.org 4 points 3 months ago

You are absolutely welcome and best of luck with your workouts!

[-] RBWells@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Yes, odd question. I'm a lady, and honestly could deadlift and squat and curl all day and never would my body end up looking like a guy's - like my husband and I could literally do the same exercises and end up looking so different.

I see guys in yoga class all the time and they look lean and fit, not bulky, that's still a strong and manly look. As my biologist daughter says "testosterone is a hell of a drug."

I don't think you can err here, just don't skip legs and butt.

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[-] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 2 points 3 months ago

Never had that problem, maybe because I have the thigh-gap body type.

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