Old guys need to pass the torch for their brands to stay relevant.

It's a selfish act to be 80 whatever with this much political capital and not have been developing protégés with whom to share and support.

Biden should be on a rocking chair sipping a lemonade for the rest of his life at this point, maybe calling in favors as necessary for a 40 or 50-year-old high energy leader who actually has to live in the future he creates.

Democrats are handing Trump another term on a silver platter. But I don't expect them to do much soul searching if it happens. I expect them to just shift the blame onto everything else.

Swing voters and those who haven't decided yet often make the difference. I don't believe for a second they will turn out in droves for Biden. He is not the guy. If he's like this now, what's he going to be like in 4 years time?

If the Dems had a young firebrand type as a presidential candidate who could really take Trump to task, I think they'd walk the election.

Lol yeah pretty much. Just got round to watching the highlights today and what a joke. Nobody even bothers to mention democracy or freedom any more because now its pure politics. It's been perfected to the point that it finally bears no resemblance to human nature whatsoever.

To anyone thinking, “We surived one term of Trump. How bad can another one be?”

Very bad, as John Oliver points out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYwqpx6lp_s

Thank fuck I'm not American. Now, if you'd excuse me, I must get ready for the potential imminent arrival of fascism in about 2 days in my country (France). Can't wait to see the US fall as well! Wow! What a wonderful fucking world awaits us, huh? 💀

I love the part where the democratic leadership made sure there were no viable alternatives during the primary.

You had one person trying to listen, keep track and respond earnestly to each point of a serial liar, and struggling to do it.

The serial liar would make one statement making light of the last thing that was said and then confidently go off on whatever they wanted.

We've seen before that Americans want a confident but evil self-serving idiot over a tepid but smart, compassionate leader.

Next morning Edit: My one hope is that the news of Grants Pass, EPA SCOTUS decisions show the real consequences of electing Trump.

Honestly I don't know how much better I could do than biden in an argument with trump. His look of just complete confusion as trump just continued to say complete nonsense was pretty much the same look I had listening to it.

This whole night was so many layers of exhausting, but probably not for the reasons you think... No rational, serious person was expecting Biden to Willy Wonka front somersault into this debate? it was going to be what this was, the only true surprise was probably the volume of his voice (which they chalk up to a cold, okay fine, I guess) and actually how well he did quickly processing and responding to trump's gish gallop and unchecked stream of consciousness mistruth firehose with little help from the impotent moderators for the majority of the night.

The people in this country, in their immediate reaction to this debate, demonstrate that they just fundamentally lack the focus, empathv and frankly basic intelligence to process the substance of this or any debate. On average, we respond solely to voice pitch, tonality, body language and facial expressions, like a still developing toddler... Or a dog.

Trump is the perfect representative of the US tourists we see here in Europe.

Not all, of course, because you don't notice the quiet / decent ones. (Hey, just like the election , huh)