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[-] stoy@lemmy.zip 61 points 9 months ago

Funny, but what does the skin color have to do with the situation?

[-] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 71 points 9 months ago

It's a reminder than people that have always been in a privileged position often don't realize they do.

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[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 66 points 9 months ago

When a given demographic is a dominant presence in a given area (not necessarily work, it can be anything), there is a tendency for they demographic to start making assumptions about other demographics.

In most places, men are the dominant presence, and in most of the "western" world, they will also be white.

In this case, the individual who a white male was doing what's called colloquially, "mansplaining". He was correcting a woman when not only was the woman right, but was the very source he was using to correct her.

This is a consistent and very unpleasant fact of the world that white men will treat anyone of any other demographic as less than equals.

In this specific case, I suspect that the person making that post was pointing to the prejudice and stupidity of the person indirectly insulting her being a systemic issue arising from both gender and sexual entrenchment along with the privilege that allows the dominance of the white male demographic despite their being no quantifiable factor for that group to be dominant other than that privilege.

She, in other words, was pointing out a systemic issue by using an anecdote. Which can be a bit difficult to accept as evidence. Or would be if there wasn't a good century or so of giant piles of anecdotes from real people pointing to that systemic issue not only existing, but being something that holds everyone back.

Truth? Yes, women and people of color are going to assume they're right and whoever they're talking to is wrong just like any humans will. But white dudes have been pulling that crap for multiple generations, and anyone that isn't both white and male get sick of the bad behavior.

[-] ashenblood@sh.itjust.works 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

This is a consistent and very unpleasant fact of the world that white men will treat anyone of any other demographic as less than equals.

Citation needed.

In all seriousness, I understand your point and respect you for trying to deconstruct the mechanics of privilege.

But I just factually disagree with your assertion. I would argue that every human being has an inherent preference for people that they perceive as similar to themselves in some way, and this can result in bias along racial or gender lines. However, this arguably applies less to white men than any other demographic, because such behavior is so consistently condemned and shamed when exhibited by white men.

In contrast, people of other demographics are less frequently made aware of their own biases, because calling it out has not been construed as some kind of ethical imperative, as it has with white men.

It's also well documented that women have a much stronger in-group bias compared to men.

In essence, women can be characterized as “If I am good and I am female, females are good,” whereas men can be characterized as “Even if I am good and I am male, men are not necessarily good.” This sex difference in cognitive balance suggests that a mechanism that promotes female preference in women does not similarly contribute to male preference for men.

https://rutgerssocialcognitionlab.weebly.com/uploads/1/3/9/7/13979590/rudmangoodwin2004jpsp.pdf

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[-] InappropriateEmote@hexbear.net 44 points 9 months ago

It's not obvious? Because white males as a demographic are the most privileged people on the planet and not coincidentally also the ones most prone to petty, oblivious arrogance, tantrum-throwing, and egotistical man-splaining. The latter was demonstrated by the one in this NASA scientist's anecdote.

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[-] blindsight@beehaw.org 41 points 9 months ago

Did you drop a /s? This is a funny meme, so I'm assuming I just missed a joke.

Right?

(Speaking as a white male, white male entitlement, and privilege for that matter, are incredibly relevant to white men being sexist/racist.)

(You can trust me on this because I'm a white male. Also, I'm used to my opinion being listened to, so I expect you to as well. Just FYI.)

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[-] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 33 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

lemmy.zip

Edit: this slap fight below this comment is the reason for this comment originally, that is why it was a joke to point out the instance, Thanks for demonstrating my point lol

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[-] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 29 points 9 months ago

Being white is a huge risk factor for unearned confidence. So is male. Being both just multiplies the chances.

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[-] rimjob_rainer@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

In the US it's all about skin colour

[-] xkforce@lemmy.world 19 points 9 months ago

To emphasize the privilege this guy has.

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[-] UnityDevice@startrek.website 19 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)
[-] DinosaurThussy@hexbear.net 22 points 9 months ago

It’s an American reality. Race still influences much of American life.

[-] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 14 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It's an American obsession.

Are you just going to pretend that there is no racism anywhere else? It was the Europeans that colonised half the planet and invented the concept of "whiteness", and proceeded to divide and carve Africa up. Are you just going to pretend that this action has had no influence on modern European ideas around race and class? And I haven't even mentioned the Roma people. Or the ongoing genocide in Palestine, which has a racial component. Or the rise of Hinduistic fascism in India. Or the issues around race in my own country in South Africa. Racism is a global issue.

[-] Adkml@hexbear.net 12 points 9 months ago

All you losers acting like you dont understand why the fact it was a white male that was being the ignorant self righteous asshole just shows you aren't actually serious with engaging with material realities.

You should all really look up what MLK Jr has to say about you white moderates and make an effort to remind yourself people like MLK Jr and Malcolm X think you're literally worse than white supremacists.

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