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[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 86 points 2 days ago (9 children)

To be fair, everyone's views are shaped by propaganda of some kind, it's quite literally unavoidable if you exist within any society. Lots of people like to think that their ideas are just the product of their own independent thinking, but that isn't really how people work.

[–] AreaKode@lemmy.world 48 points 2 days ago (3 children)

The key is to be constantly aware of it. Never follow someone blindly.

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[–] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Nikls94@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

There’s a fine line between "not believing that propaganda" and "being a conspiracy theorist"

Like "Project Prism"

[–] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (15 children)

The current state American society has been in for the last 10 to 15 years is heavily a consequence of Russian info ops. Many countries run info ops. But no country has done as much damage as Russia

[–] ProvableGecko@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (24 children)

Yeah, no. American Oligarchs did social media. Youtube, Twitter, facebook, instagram all American. First they did it for money now they are doing it openly for power. Cambridge Analytica, anti-vax, anti-trans, anti-abortion, anti-immigrant all of these are made by Americans to poison the world. And they are going to do much worse with AI. Americans destroyed the world.

[–] krunklom@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You understand the difference between a medium and the content on that medium right?

That's a rhetorical question since you clearly don't.

[–] UniversalBasicJustice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Corporate control over an algorithm that decides who is served what content is a platform-agnostic tool of power over society. We're seeing that danger manifest in old and new ways every single day. That lever of power allows whomever owns that particular medium to push whatever content they like. That is the entire motivation behind and purpose of the Fediverse and other decentralization efforts.

Zuck and muskrat separate populations, push propaganda and influence discussions at an unprecedented level. The control a single corporation, a single authoritarian point of power has over such vast swathes of population dwarfs the propagandic power of Goebbles and Stalin by an order of magnitude or more.

I don't blame America explicitly like the other commenter. The conditions that have allowed the billionaire class to explode and wield power and influence exist elsewhere in the world as well. That said, America's legal and regulatory frameworks did provide particularly fertile breeding grounds for the exploitation and hoarding of capital that produces billionaires.

[–] hark@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Do you? Control over the medium is far more powerful than being a mere user of that medium.

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[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No other country has done as much? We're gonna just ignore how much support Israel has thrown behind Trump? Netanyahu was meeting and communicating with him during the 2024 election cycle, all while ignoring the Biden administration! Snubbing a sitting president for a prospective candidate!

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[–] sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You're not wrong. I like to think I'm immune to proponganda because I'm anarchist but it's pretty obvious that I can be fooled just as easily as anyone by the pretense of speaking truth to power

[–] safesyrup@feddit.org 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

My then history teacher said everyone is affected by propaganda, even trained and studied individuals like him. To think you are immune to influence from other people is very naive.

[–] Nasan@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 day ago

I've told co-workers that a person's resilience against propaganda is a spectrum. No one is completely immune, but you can approach high levels of resilience at the cost of your sanity.

That's me. I'm naive af

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Yes, but most propaganda is not specifically fascist in nature.

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its one thing to have different kinds of propaganda , but RW only consume 1 kind of pure propaganda as thier sole source of information.

[–] Photonic@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

While that is true, some propaganda is definitely more harmful while some others are relatively harmless.

[–] nialv7@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I am not going to believe your propaganda! My pristine, untainted thoughts won't take this slander. /s

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world -2 points 1 day ago

For sure, but the Kremlin is like Sauron, and most other propaganda is about which stew is best.