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Yeah, no. American Oligarchs did social media. Youtube, Twitter, facebook, instagram all American. First they did it for money now they are doing it openly for power. Cambridge Analytica, anti-vax, anti-trans, anti-abortion, anti-immigrant all of these are made by Americans to poison the world. And they are going to do much worse with AI. Americans destroyed the world.
You understand the difference between a medium and the content on that medium right?
That's a rhetorical question since you clearly don't.
Corporate control over an algorithm that decides who is served what content is a platform-agnostic tool of power over society. We're seeing that danger manifest in old and new ways every single day. That lever of power allows whomever owns that particular medium to push whatever content they like. That is the entire motivation behind and purpose of the Fediverse and other decentralization efforts.
Zuck and muskrat separate populations, push propaganda and influence discussions at an unprecedented level. The control a single corporation, a single authoritarian point of power has over such vast swathes of population dwarfs the propagandic power of Goebbles and Stalin by an order of magnitude or more.
I don't blame America explicitly like the other commenter. The conditions that have allowed the billionaire class to explode and wield power and influence exist elsewhere in the world as well. That said, America's legal and regulatory frameworks did provide particularly fertile breeding grounds for the exploitation and hoarding of capital that produces billionaires.
Do you? Control over the medium is far more powerful than being a mere user of that medium.
~~Yea naw, my parents watch WeChat short videos and read their BS articles and they constantly regurgitate anti-Democrat rhetorics, and whenever someone gets shot by police, they fucking cheer, the homeless people, anyone with a "mental illness", even George Floyd, they think trials are waste of time and resources, they want the system to just skip the trial and want the suspects dead.~~
~~Can't even blame "Americans" for this, the CCP has full control of the content, they clearly aren't censoring it.~~
~~WeChat is literally poisoning the Chinese Overseas Diaspora. Its another tentacle of the CCP's power. There's no doubt they also infect social media platforms like facebook, xitter, etc...They sow chaos, and untimately, whatever the CCP does damages the repututation of anyone who is ethnic Chinese or looks ethnic Chinese. They are infaming Sinophobia by being the worse representatives of my people. And all the abuse that I have endured from my parents is from this toxic culture, fuck this "filial piety" BS, fuck conservatism. I've been helping out in my parents bussiness, and they still say I'm useless. I really wanna go back in time and shoot confucious for inventing the stupid ass religion, fuck your ει , its literally parental indoctrination to control their children. Evil ass shit. Fuck confucious.~~
Nvm
I assumed the US was disseminating right-wing propaganda among the chinese diaspora, given that they do it with every other one.
What does China even get out of turning your parents into right-wing psychos? America gets a community that is happy to work with them against their home country.
I'm sorry for that. If its any consolation, the dynamics usually change as they get older and more dependent on you.
That's British
Andrew Wakefield, the guy who started the antivax movement, is British
The US passed laws protecting trans people and many Americans are literally trans or allies. Russia however, is extremely anti-trans.
See the above point
See the above point, also, America is a country of immigrants and refugees, "Melting Pot," America was one of the first countries to encourage and mobilize massive movements of immigrants, which sheltered them from oppressive governments looking to hurt them. This includes people fleeing from Russia and their wars and genocides like the Holodomor.
ahh, to live in 2014 again.
It's still here in 2025. America isn't a bunch of fascist MAGAs, even if we are being taken over by Russian assets and Russian propaganda.
my sibling in Christ, Reps. Mace and Jackson literally shouted the t-slur yesterday and called for all trans people to be forcibly institutionalized. Trump said he "wouldn't oppose" banning the trans flag when a reporter asked about "transtifa." Musk retweeted someone who called trans women "perverted, deranged bioweapons" and trans men "osteoporotic, androgynous goblins," calling us to be contained and forbidden to communicate with each other. along with someone else calling for a total ban on HRT for all ages. we've been kicked out of the military, and stripped of security clearances. the DoJ has floated banning us from gun ownership by ruling that we're "mentally defective." my passport has an M on it because Trump reverted all the rules on his first day in office. it's a literal felony for trans women to use the women's bathroom in Florida, and for trans office workers to use their own pronouns. coverage for trans health has been stripped from nearly every public service. trans protections have recently been eviscerated in Skrmetti.
it's really not going great.
They are not America even if they seized fascist control of America. America is the people here and that includes activists and trans people. That includes you and me.
That we cry out and care is evidence the universe cries out and cares, since we are part of the universe as well. The universe through us cries out.
That we cry out and care is evidence Americans care, because we are both Americans. It is so so so important to not equate America with hate, but instead to equate the MAGA admin with hate.
And regardless, those anti-trans laws are literally Putin/Russian as a policy - remember how Russia got mad at the Olympic boxer and demanded she be tested? Russia literally funded the politicians for those laws, made all the propaganda pieces and ads, etc etc etc. And ofc some traitors and assholes went with it.
Literally just reinventing the Nazis conspiracy theory that Russians are secretly behind all their nations problems.
You are literally arguing that literal birth American citizens living in America aren't really American and are actually "Russian" in some kind of ontological way. You have literally defined 'Russian' and 'American' in such a way that all of America's problems are, by definition Russia, even if they are caused entirely by American policy made by Americans in America. This is hardcore literal Nazi shit you are doing.
No, and further, I gave sources. From multiple countries and organizations and world leaders. https://lemmy.world/post/36107411/19469733
When asked for sources for their grand conspiracy that Satanic paedophiles are secretly behind everything, qanoners would machine gun you with articles about individual powerful people being paedophiles, and act like that proved that they were secretly all paedophiles.
When asked for sources for their grand conspiracy about Judeo-Bolsheriks, Nazis could machine gun you with stories about Jews doing bad things and act like that proved Jews are behind everything.
When asked for sources for your Grand conspiracy about Russia being behind all of America's problems, you machinegun stories any Russia doing bad things and act like that proves they're behind every bad thing
BRICS literal stated purpose is western currency collapse, and they formed a coalition around this stated purpose.
Russia is a state run by a dictator who is having them do this, so that's why they are grouped.
It isn't "any" story, it is literally about their online warfare.
Please learn to read
Please learn a basic good faith argument
I didn't say Russia was behind all global issues or all of America's issues. I listed what Russia has specifically been doing because that was the info missing. I even mentioned Dubai and BRICS as you noted, so you contradict yourself here that I say only Russia is behind anything anyway. But the topic was Russia and Russia has all the blackmail so that is why they are the focus.
You can't criticize Putin? Lol you ARE a bot. Not least because you haven't been able to add to the discussion at all like a normal person.
Listen mate, nobody is going to take seriously the argument that trying to form a rival currency bloc to the US dollar is literal warfare except for the most insane fascists.
Oh, so Russia secretly controls India and China now too! Fucking Qanon tier shit.
Well that's just straight up lying; https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-62465043 this has nothing to do with online warfare, liar.
You mean the thing you just said was controlled by Russia?
Once paragraph later:
You can't criticize Obama? Lol you ARE a bot!
Lol. OK. Apparently "normal" means "endlessly ignoring actual arguments and just screeching 'RUSSIAN BOT!' at anyone who disagrees."
I can see you're having a worsening of your mental health event, I'm done talking to you. Have fun with your creative writing exercise!
Iβve got to ask the liberals of this com: are you really not at all uncomfortable that the liberal discourse has descended to the level of the absolute toxic insanity of the above post? Like, honest question, how is this any different to the average MAGA chud at this point?
You know America is cooked because even liberals are blaming everything on evil foreigners
I have no issue with Russian people, I have an issue with Putin and the Russian state government committing atrocities globally including usurping governments. I am not a liberal, I am an abolitionist and socialist.
Whether you acknowledge it or not, their bombs will blow you up the same.
No. This level of xenophobia, American exceptionalism, and McCarthyism are incompatible with actually being an abolitionist and a socialist.
All bombs will blow you up, genius, including American ones, which blow up more people than anyone else.
Lmfao it isn't xenophobia to stand up to a nation or nations actively attacking you with huge military campaigns for millions of dollars. It isnt xenophobia to criticize a foreign government engaging in massive human rights abuses including slavery.
Where have I stated American exceptionalism even once?
Where have I stated anything McCarthyism related? Do you think modern Russia is communist? Do you think Putin is communist?
Can you say anything negative about Putin?
No shit, I don't support the US doing this shit either.
OK? That has nothing to do with the discussion at hand, because that's not what we were talking about. Unless you're just deliberately trying to motte-and-bailly out of what you said.
The bit where you assume that none of America's problems could be domestic, they're all the result of a grand conspiracy by evil foreigners.
Lol, so accusing everyone who disagrees with you of being a secret Russian agent is fine so long as you don't also call them a communist? Fuck off, you're being disingenuous and you know; constantly blaming everything on massive infiltration by Russian agents, including attacking all dissent by accusing them of being Russian agents, is McCarthyism regardless of whether Russia is communist.
Are you now or have you ever been a member of the Communist Party?
Sure you do, by claiming that when America does it, it's secretively Russia's fault, and anyone who criticizes the US for it is secretly Russian.
I can see youβre having a worsening of your mental health event, Iβm done talking to you. Have fun with your creative writing exercise!
Iβve got to ask the liberals of this com: are you really not at all uncomfortable that the liberal discourse has descended to the level of the absolute toxic insanity of the above post? Like, honest question, how is this any different to the average MAGA chud at this point?