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Tree’s resin, called ’tsori’ in Biblical texts, was highly prized in ancient world for its used in perfume, incense, cataract medicine, embalming agents, and antidotes

The resin of a tree grown from an ancient seed found in a desert cave near Jerusalem could be the source of a medicinal balm mentioned in the Bible, a new study has found.

The strange seed, about 2cm long, was discovered in a Judean Desert cave in the late 1980s, and dated to between 993AD and 1202AD. After years of attempting to grow the plant, researchers have identified the sapling nicknamed “Sheba”.

Researchers suspected the “Sheba” tree to be a candidate for the “Judean Balsam” or “Balm of Judea”, which was cultivated exclusively in the desert region of southern Levant during Biblical times.

The Judean Balsam has been extensively described in the literature from Hellenistic, Roman-Byzantine and Post-Classical periods between the 4th century BC and the 8th century AD.

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 75 points 1 month ago

used in perfume, incense, cataract medicine

"I hear you're having trouble seeing. Put this perfume in your eye."

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago

Well. It can’t all be snake oil.

I mean people get suspicious of snake oil literally cures… like… everything…

[-] Hegar@fedia.io 35 points 1 month ago

The funny thing is that actual chinese snake oil was incredibly effective at alleviating things like joint pain or some skin conditions. It has higher concentrations of omega 3s than fish oil and has even been shown to help mice learn mazes faster.

That's why grifters selling fake medicine all claimed it was snake oil - people already wanted snake oil because they knew it worked.

[-] lefaucet@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Wonder if anyone's given effort to synthesize it. Name like snake oil would fly off shelves like liquid death and emergen-c combined

[-] DrBob@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 month ago

Eyes aspirin suspiciously...pain reduction, anti-inflammatory, blood thinner, fever reduction. All-in-one package?

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

Basically all medication has side effects.

Aspirin works by blocking production of cyclooxygenase, which, causes platelets not to produce thromboxane A2, effectively permanently rendering affected platelets useless.

COX also reduces productions of prostaglandins which mediates pain- basically, causing your nerves to pay attention to pain signals. (I’m sure some one who’s actually a doctor or nurse is swearing at me by now…) and also triggers more inflammation.

COX also increases production of PGE2 (another prostaglandin,) which is what triggers the fever response.

This is how most NSAIDs work, though they each have other side effects, that are different from the others.

[-] BalooWasWahoo@links.hackliberty.org 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

doctor or nurse is swearing at me by now

The people who interact with patients think you're great. Give people some info and make it easy to understand. It's the Ph.D. fella who did his thesis on cellular signaling focusing on nociceptor differences in distal/medial loci.

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[-] lizzyism@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Yes, willow bark is incredible!

[-] Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

To add even more nonsense, you can get it naturally from the soft Underbark of willow trees.Literally eating this bark makes pain go away.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

You're generally supposed to make tea from the bark. Eating it would not be pleasant.

[-] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 1 month ago

So you're saying the bark is worse if you bite?

[-] Deceptichum@quokk.au 9 points 1 month ago

I mean people thought bleach could cure Covid…

[-] DrBob@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 month ago

Well it does ..but the side effects are killer.

[-] JaymesRS@literature.cafe 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

By the same metric, neck tourniquets work wonders for headaches.

[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago

To be clear, only a few people of a particular sort thought that.

[-] snaggen@programming.dev 3 points 1 month ago

Yes, historical medicin was so good, lets work our ass off to recreate it...

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

That's how I feel every time someone touts "traditional Chinese medicine." Sure, ancient peoples knew about certain cures... they also didn't understand basic concepts like viruses.

[-] Arsecroft@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 1 month ago

What do you call alternative medicine that has been proven to work?

medicine

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Exactly. My dad had and I have a painful nerve condition called trigeminal neuralgia. My dad was desperate to try anything, so he tried acupuncture. I asked him if it helped with the pain and he told me, "no, but the acupuncturist said it did." And then I asked him what it felt like, and he said, "it felt like someone stuck a lot of needles in my face."

[-] dharmacurious@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 month ago

Jumping in to ask if you've tried carbomazapine (sp?) for the TN? My mom suffered for nearly 2 years with face shocks, sometimes dozens of times per day. That med is the only thing that helped, and we never had a doctor suggest it. I did my own research by looking up medical journals on my school's library and then asked the doc to prescribe it for her. Almost instant relief

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Thanks, but mine is already handled via medication.

[-] Drusas@fedia.io 1 points 1 month ago

My dad has lingering (in fact, worsened now that he's getting older) pain and contortions and his foot that was nearly severed when he was a teenager. He's very much not into alternative medicine and that sort of thing, but he finally decided to try acupuncture about two years ago. He says it helped. Only thing that has helped.

I'm still skeptical, but I'm a little bit less skeptical because he's the sort to be skeptical of it as well.

[-] Longpork3@lemmy.nz 2 points 1 month ago

My laymans assumption is that acupuncture likely has a counterirritant effect, which can make pain seem less pronounced.

Sort of like how punching yourself in the side of the head can provide relief for a migraine.

[-] Drusas@fedia.io 1 points 1 month ago

I wonder if that might be the case. My dad said that it wasn't painful, so I'm not sure. The needles are apparently very thin.

I would expect, just like with pharmaceutical medicine, there is a placebo effect for some people and so it gets really complicated trying to determine how effective something like acupuncture is.

[-] billiam0202@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

For people who hate the greed of the pharma industry, it's really amazing to see just how little logic it takes to destroy their arguments:

You know how we know ground-up rhino horn doesn't cure your dick problems? Because Pfizer or GlaxoSmithKline or Bayer aren't spending billions on rhino sanctuaries.

[-] Assman@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

Many pharmaceuticals origate as natural remedies. You think they just came up with synthetic drugs out of thin air?

[-] snaggen@programming.dev 0 points 1 month ago

No, but the process to identify the ones that work is all part of the modern medicine. Before that, placebo and lack of scientific methods made it impossible to separate a working substance from snake oil.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

It may have useful organic compounds. I’m mostly interested because it could be a nice incense

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