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How is setting off little bombs amongst a civilian population not terrorism?
It's because it's Israel, if you say they are terrorists, you're antisemitic.
I guess I'm antisemitic now.
It is terrorism
Wait till they start dropping the big bombs. Then it'll be even less like terrorism and you'll be called antisemitic for suggesting otherwise.
Because the terrorist label is handed by the West.
Then why do almost all Western countries consider Hezbollah a terrorist organization?
And obviously it becomes a war only when we (the collective West) label it as such, otherwise it's still just terrorists. They become soldiers only when it's convenient for us.
The fire has started in 1948.
Because they are at war. And yes, it's an official war. Hezbollah declared war well prior to this and has been firing rockets into Israel. Hence, this is a retaliatory attack by Israel. It's no different than bombing or firing missiles, it's just far more targeted at Hezbollah members since it's their electronics. Unfortunately innocent civilian casualties are always a part of war, but this type of attack actually minimizes them far more than just straight bombing would.
The US State Department designated Hezballah as a foreign terrorist organization in October 1997. More than 60 other countries and organizations, including the EU, the Arab League, and the Gulf Cooperation Council, have also designated Hizballah—either in part or in its entirety—as a terrorist group.
What a load of ghoulish warmongering. Oh it's war? If Hezbollah had done this to Israelis, the world would be crying blood and vowing for Israel's right to defend itself.
It is war. And what Israel did was smart tactically. Also, collateral damage is part of every war. Even more so when the enemy entrenches itself among civilians.
Strange how this talk of "collateral" damage only applies to when Israelis kill civilians and not when, say, Hamas or Hezbollah do it.
Using your own despicable and dehumanizing approach, October the 7th merely had 797 "collateral victims" for the 379 legitimate Israeli security forces targets. And after all, the 2:1 civilian to military casualties ratio is basically the same as the IDF's own record in Gaza.
Ah what to do, such is war...
No.
Fuck that barbaric way of devaluing the loss of human life.
It applies both ways as far as I'm concerned. I never said otherwise.
I wouldn't consider blatant terrorism 'tactically smart.' Yet, targeting civilians is par for the course for Israel
Not terrorism in the slightest. Get a clue.
Um... So you're either full of shit or you need a vocabulary refresher. That literally says that they will destroy villages despite the absurdly disproportionate civilian death toll, because "from their standpoint" they're not "civilian villages" (whatever the fuck THAT means).
Genocide apologist scumbag.
It's fucking war. The term "genocide" is being broadly used as killing the enemy, the same group of people that wants to torture and slaughter every single Jew in existence.
Damn, those must be some really cognitively advanced children.
You're being disingenuous with the "it's war" shit too, but you can go waste someone else's time about that.
We need to wait for the numbers before we can say either way, but I certainly doubt it. The EU foreign policy chief has already condemned the attack as indiscriminate.
I find it extremely unsettling, this tactic. It could have hit anyone and I think it should be condemned. Just imagine the outcry if Russia should have done that in the Ukraine.
Can't wait to hear how all those dead children were actually Hezbollah.
The Mossad planted explosive devices in the walkie-talkies prior to Hezbollah receiving them so ...
So kill their families right?
There is an old saying that a terrorist is someone who has a bomb, but not an airforce to drop it.
This definitely feels like terrorist attack tactics, since it does more to cause fear than actually fatalities. You make some really good points though, it's unfortunate that you're getting so many downvotes for factual information.
As for the terrorist group designation, you can see a list of all countries and entities that consider Hezbollah a terrorist group here.. It does include both the European Union and the United States, along with many other countries. There are some countries that don't consider them a terrorist group, notably Russia, China, and North Korea.
You don’t have to deny that Hezbollah is a terrorist organization to call these attacks terrorism.
Both of these statements can be true.
And while in war, there are prohibitions on targeting non-combatants, they don't require that there be no collateral damage. Israel's pretty clearly targeting Hezbollah here, not random Lebanese.
I do wonder if Hezbollah can maybe agree to stay out of part of Lebanon. I don't think that that'd need to compromise either Israel's or Hezbollah's war plans, so maybe it'd be possible to come to some sort of agreement like that; you'd need buy-in from both parties. Then that area could be used as a safe area for Lebanese non-combatants.
Do you have proof for that statement?
Source: IDF said trust me bro.
They tried to target them certainly but there's a huge margin of error involved, wait awhile for all the fallout. I imagine there's going to be more than a few instances of people cracking batteries to find suspicious potentially lethal contents. Guaranteed there's a bunch they didn't pop because farmer Dan or Doctor Jane got it instead.