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submitted 6 months ago by MossyFeathers@pawb.social to c/196@lemmy.blahaj.zone

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Description: A giant snake lady sits in a lake. A man stands next to the edge of the lake and asks, "O snake of the lake, what is your wisdom?"

The snake replies, "Osamu Tezuka, the inventory of manga and anime, created old-school furry icons like Kimba and Bagi and had a secret collection of erotic furry art that he made which was only found after his death; so weebs are really just a human-focused offshoot of furries.

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[-] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 95 points 6 months ago

Furries are centered around anthropomorphic animals. Anthropomorphic means it has human traits. Humans are an animal species. Humans have human traits by definition, therefore humans are technically anthropomorphic animals, therefore all art of humans is technically a subset of furry art.

[-] Lepsea@sh.itjust.works 66 points 6 months ago

[-] Dasnap@lemmy.world 42 points 6 months ago

So having an alter ego would be a fursona?

[-] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.world 38 points 6 months ago

Your main ego is a fursona!

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Myers-Briggs Fursonality Test

Basically the same, but now it also tells you what animal species you relate to.

[-] LordAmplifier@pawb.social 4 points 6 months ago

But that's not what I meant when I said I wanted to become my fursona D:

[-] TootSweet@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago

Animated gif of Keanu Reeves' character in Bill And Ted's Excellent Adventure looking awe-struck and probably high saying "woah"

[-] Ranger@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 6 months ago

[-] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.world 60 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

People call him the Walt Disney of Anime, but Walt wasn't a fraction of the person Tezuka was. He influenced the trend of gender bending in manga and anime with a binary breaking character in Princess Knight. He made Kimba the White Lion which was ~~heavily~~ influential on The Lion King(Kimba, seriously Disney?). He's influenced Buddhism through an epic series on the founder's life. He made Message to Adolf, a complex look at WWII and bigotry, while Disney was a Nazi bigot.

He even has the better mouse 😁

[-] g0d0fm15ch13f@lemmy.world 24 points 6 months ago

It's worth noting that Kimba's influence on The Lion King was marginal at best as outside of character species (which are limited to African species in both mediums) there are hardly any similarities.

[-] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

Fair. They didn't rip him off; they paid homage to his work here and there. That inclusion was more about the cross-pollination of artistic techniques and style that happens naturally. I probably should have tied it more to how The Lion King inspired some people to become furries.

[-] g0d0fm15ch13f@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

All good, I just see that myth propagated everywhere. And idk about y'all, but mlp is probably the biggest furry factor that I know of lol.

[-] anarchist@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 months ago

Oh man do I have a YMS video for you

[-] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

On who?

[-] tb_@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

As the other person was too lazy to link it: video

On Kimba/Simba

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[-] Vedlt@lemmy.world 28 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Pardon my ignorance, but I thought a "weeb" was someone who obsessed over Japanese culture in general, not just anime. So let's say I have a degree in Japanese studies but don't geek out over anime, am I still a weeb?

[-] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 28 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

No, you're correct about weebs being obsessed with Japanese culture in general. Weebs do tend to be obsessed with Japanese culture, however it's like the difference between someone who has a degree in film history and a cinemaphile. Or a geek and someone who enjoys super hero movies.

Edit: or a tankie vs a communist or socialist

[-] WamGams@lemmy.ca 8 points 6 months ago

Are weebs even obsessed with Japanese culture, or just the children's entertainment and snack foods aspect of it?

Forgive my bluntness, but I've never had a weeb give me their thoughts on Murakami's latest novel.

[-] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 13 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Eh, I think it depends on the weeb. I'd say that most are obsessed with Japanese pop culture, however it also depends on the individual. I've known weebs who were basically just into the anime/manga depiction of Japan, while others had a deeper but equally romanticized understanding of Japanese culture.

[-] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 21 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

[-] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 16 points 6 months ago

Oh it's not just furry stuff. It gets weirder.

[-] granolamalfunction@yiffit.net 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Snake lady is from Prophecy by Zummeng. (Very NSFW) Images taken from page 9, panels 3 and 5.

[-] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 11 points 6 months ago

Weebs also like to forget that (iirc) the furry community was started by a bunch of cartoonists who imported and distributed anime bootlegs during a time when anime was nearly impossible to get in the US. Weebs should be thanking the founders of the furry community for making their fandom possible.

[-] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 9 points 6 months ago

Hahaha, that's funny. Where would you go to find that art so that way I can totally avoid it? Asking for a friend! Who definitely isn't interested in this or anything!

[-] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 13 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I don't know if there's a complete collection anywhere, but here's a Shincho Monthly article that has some of it (obviously NSFW): https://archive.org/details/erotica_of_osamu_tezuka

Most of it is transformation fetish stuff, ranging from human->anthro stuff to weirder inanimate and body-horror-esque/"what-has-science-done" kinda transformation art. Tbh I kinda wonder how much of it was really fetish fuel and how much of it was artistic musings. Some of the drawings are so bizarre that it's hard to believe that they'd actually trigger someone's fetish and seem more like he was just exploring surreal transformations.

Then again, I've been exposed to a lot of obviously pornographic art that normies would think was too weird to be fetish material, so I'm probably mistaken.

[-] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 4 points 6 months ago

I didn't know what I was expecting, but that felt just a little disappointing. Still pretty interesting to look at, though.

[-] The_Che_Banana@beehaw.org 1 points 6 months ago

I just finished watching shogun, and really enjoyed it...does this make me a weeb?

...and a furry by extension?

[-] Neato@ttrpg.network 12 points 6 months ago

We're all furries on this blessed day.

[-] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 1 points 6 months ago

No. Weebs are people who are fans of Japanese culture in general, usually to an extreme; ignoring shortcomings of Japanese culture and politics in favor of a highly romanticized version of Japan. An anime fan might think Japan is cool, a weeb thinks Japan is some kind of magical fairyland where catgirls grow on trees.

It's like tankies vs communists and socialists.

[-] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 months ago

Is there an equivalent term for people super into US culture? (I know the term if it exists would be different in different countries so more of a broad question)

I was in Taiwan a few months ago and something that really stood out to me were some of the people who would hang at starbucks and McDonald there. Some of them were basically fully decked in what I'd describe as California cosplay complete with very western cosmetic surgeries

[-] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 8 points 6 months ago

There sure is! I usually see them referred to as "ameriboos" or "westaboos" (both are plays on "weeaboo", which is the full term that "weeb" is derived from).