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submitted 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) by Blaze@lemmy.zip to c/android

(Posting this here rather than !askandroid@lemdro.id as it's a quite general question)

I had a look at the GSM Arena phone finder, and it the choice is getting smaller and smaller every year (only 43 phones from 2023, reviewed by the site, had a jack)

The remaining ones are mostly

  • Xiaomi Redmi
  • Zenfones
  • Sony
  • Samsung entry range

So, has everyone switched to Bluetooth / USB-C dongles, or are there still a few people holding to the jack until the very end?

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[-] judooochp@lemmy.world 29 points 3 weeks ago

Only With the 3.5 mm audio jack. Bluetooth devices always have some delay, never are immune from connection problems or intermittent readback (especially if you have other devices you switch between), and don't last as long as they advertise. The delay thing is particularly irksome on the phone and watching videos. Much less important for music, but I'm not the kinda guy who plays music a lot. The battery thing is probably less of an issue these days, and could maybe be discarded, but I also forget to charge important devices, so that's a me thing and party of the reason.

[-] Blaze@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 weeks ago

Agree on most of your your points. Which phone do you use?

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[-] shortwavesurfer@monero.town 4 points 3 weeks ago

I buy mid-range devices, so while I haven't gone out of my way to get a device with a jack, my current device still has one, and it is the OnePlus Nord N200 5G, but if I did not have it, I would not be upset about it.

[-] petrescatraian@libranet.de 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

@Blaze I'm not buying phones that often, but I recently changed to a Nokia G22 (yes, they also have phones with jack), and one of the things that made me decide on that was the jack as well. I got a pair of wireless headsets from work and I can say they're pretty good, but I am still not over the thought that I have one more thing to charge its battery every once in a while. Wired headphones are pretty much okay and I don't see any problem with them that would make me switch (at least right now).

Edit: I almost forgot. I also listen to the (FM) Radio, so I need the wired headsets to be used as an antenna.

[-] Blaze@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 weeks ago

Thanks for sharing! I just had a look at Nokia phones, the G22 is a bit too large for me, but the X30 seems interesting (though a bit pricey)

[-] petrescatraian@libranet.de 4 points 3 weeks ago

@Blaze It is larger than I thought, indeed 😁 but I see they still tend to stick with stock Android even though they're not really releasing any android one phones any longer.

[-] videogamesandbeer@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

I've given up but I do wish there were better USB-C audio solutions. Android has always been lacking in the USB audio department and I have often been left feeling defeated when a car or other stereo system has USB audio input that only works with iPod/iPhone. It's just sad that even now with USB-C, audio output with Android is still so finicky.

[-] HorreC@kbin.social 9 points 3 weeks ago

I just add a usbc to audio/charging dongle to them. Getting a phone with a audio jack I feel like is when I wanted to keep the hardware keyboard, I was just walking the boulder up the hill I just was like there was an easy off that mountain.

[-] Kelo@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

For me the usb c to audio Jack adapters were a letdown. From the three I bought - all of them had a constant static noise. Especially hearable on lower noises. Don't know if it was just the adapters I got, or if it was just a quirk my phone had, but I'll stick with the dedicated usb jack for now.

[-] slurp@programming.dev 4 points 3 weeks ago

I had that only when they got damaged, but they easily get damaged

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[-] ISOmorph@feddit.de 4 points 3 weeks ago

Still a requirement for me. I listen to music and podcasts while I run, and I run a lot. But I don't want to deal with the privacy issues of leaving my BT on when I leave home. And USB dongles physical connections just aren't as reliable with a lot of motion.

[-] Blaze@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 weeks ago
[-] ISOmorph@feddit.de 3 points 3 weeks ago

Redmi Note 7. It's pretty old. Luckily the batteries are still ok.

[-] Blaze@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 weeks ago
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[-] Wugger@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

I'm still on my zenfone 6, and my next will be something sony. I don't really want a low-mid end phone but if the xperia 10 is the best I can get then that's what I'll get.

[-] thequantumcog@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago
[-] Blaze@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 weeks ago
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[-] smeg@feddit.uk 4 points 3 weeks ago

I always hated the noise you got from wired headphones every time you moved, so I was very happy as soon as wireless headphones stopped being terrible. Now I only use wireless so I really don't need a 3.5mm slot, and I can use an adapter on the off chance I do. Also I use GrapheneOS so it's not like I really have a choice!

[-] AMillionMonkeys@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

I'm pretty happy with Pixels for the moment, so it's a $5 USB-C to 1/8" dongle for me. That or the Pixel Buds I got for free as as promo with the phone. I've never had to charge and use the converter at the same time, but I believe there are cheap dongles that can do that too.

[-] slurp@programming.dev 2 points 3 weeks ago

There are but they are not reliable, even from reputable companies. I had both the ones I tried break very quickly, and moved back to requiring a headphone jack after that.

[-] Blaze@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 weeks ago

Which phone do you use at the moment?

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[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 17 points 3 weeks ago

I used to hate Bluetooth, but that's because the early versions were terrible. Painful to connect, frequent drops and disconnects, and very short range and easy to block the signal.

Since Bluetooth 4 it's been great, and rock solid with Bluetooth 5. The only time I've had a problem is when I went into the other room and stood directly in front of a running microwave. I lost about half the signal until I took a step back.

Wireless headphones are far more convenient. Phone in my pocket, and I can walk around, clean the house, or work out at the gym, completely untethered.

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[-] kokesh@lemmy.world -2 points 3 weeks ago

Honestly, what's the need for the jack? I've got Bluetooth earbuds and charger with BT/FM in my car.

[-] ISOmorph@feddit.de 9 points 3 weeks ago

Read the comments. Plenty of good reasons to want a jack.

[-] Skua@kbin.social 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I'm still using it. I've got nice headphones and speakers that run off of a cable and no interest in top-end phones, so it makes sense to get a phone that fits the more expensive audio stuff rather than a bunch of adapters. Nokia's cheaper smartphones have served me quite nicely

[-] theredhood@lemm.ee 3 points 3 weeks ago

I'm lucky to be in Asia since I can easily use redmi phones here (doesn't work well with USA carriers). 3.5mm is still really useful for me, but if there's no more options I'll probably get a 3.5mm to BT adapter.

[-] limerod@reddthat.com 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I have been using wireless since 2022 and haven't looked back. Wires are such a mess I either used to get them tangled in stuff or my hands, they would drop out of my ears.

I currently use a Sony wh-ch510 since 2022 and it's been rock solid every day. The battery easily lasts a week for my usage. It's rated for 35hrs.

I also have a pair of lypertek z3 pureplay TWS. They are waterproof and boost 70hrs of battery life. Apart from that they also support wireless charging. The app is not the best but the sound quality is top notch.

Never returning to wires ever again. Now if you ask about sdcard slot, only if the phone supports 512gb-1TB of internal storage within a reasonable price point.

[-] dmention7@lemm.ee 2 points 3 weeks ago

Begrudgingly given in.

Good fully wireless ear buds are truly an amazing convenience, but I value having flexibility and redundancy in my hardware more than having a slightly sleeker form factor. Thay includes things like removable battery, SD card slot, etc. Unfortunately, the market has spoken, and keeping those features limits you to a more and more niche selection every year. By now the tradeoff just isn't worth it to me.

As far as USB dongles, I seem to have enough problems with USB-C ports becoming loose or flaky for charging that I avoid using them except when necessary. Wireless chargers abound in my house.

[-] slurp@programming.dev 1 points 3 weeks ago

I have had similar issues with USB-C ports but avoid wireless charging as it often causes damage to the battery via excess heating (particularly if not perfectly aligned). I'd give up a 3.5mm jack for a redundant USB-C.

[-] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 3 points 3 weeks ago

I've had 4x as many C ports die as I have Micro USB (and I've used micro ports since 2009 on multiple phones, numerous headsets, speakers, and small rechargeable devices).

C ports are awful for durability, despite claims they're better than micro.

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[-] EarMaster@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

I bought some USB-C dongles when I switched, but I only used them once in several years to connect my phone to a rental car which had no Bluetooth audio.

[-] dcooksta26@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago

I seek out phones with audio jacks. My current Moto G Power 2020 has one and I use it all the time. No dongles or adapters in the car or on various headphones. Plus I actually use the FM Radio built into the phone and that uses the wire for the headphones as an antenna. I just cut off some old earbuds and plug that in, then direct the audio to either the phone speaker itself or BT.

[-] _NetNomad@kbin.run 8 points 3 weeks ago

i avoid anything wireless like the plague short of wifi. pairing is always a miserable process, and by the time everything is connected, the batteries are dead. it drives me absolutely bonkers. thankfully many motorolla phones still have 3.5mm jacks . i think my current model is the motorolla 5g stylus

[-] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 6 points 3 weeks ago

Lol.

BT hasn't been that bad in years.

Rarely have problems with pairing, and have about a dozen BT devices in my house.

Batteries and power are so much better today I worry less about charging BT devices than my phone.

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[-] evo@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago

I switched to Bluetooth earbuds long before phones started removing the headphone jack...

[-] Macaroni_ninja@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

I use wired in-ear headphones while cycling for convenience of not needing to charge so they are always ready to go when I go for a ride. Also I wear my phone in the back pocket of my jersey, so its an extra string holding my device in case it would fall out (never happened, but just in case). I use some half-decent BT headphones for media consumption when home.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 weeks ago

I only buy phone with a jack although I haven't needed a new phone in a long time.

[-] jacktherippah@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

I'm fine with Bluetooth. My earbuds and speakers all have Bluetooth nowadays.

[-] malios@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Still holding onto the audio jack. My last few phones are the HTC 10 (2016), Galaxy S10e (2019) and Xperia 1 V (got it last year). I commute to work daily and my car has an audio jack, CD player, and PC card slot for playing audio. I'm avoiding adapters for multiple reasons - others here mentioning static, and annoyance/inconvenience (want to be able to charge my phone when needed without more dongles). I held off on giving up a physical keyboard and getting a larger phone but eventually gave in on those. Also not giving up the microSD slot.

[-] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

My car only works with an aux cord so at least until I get a new car I'm sticking to phones with one. I'm not buying a dongle. They can go fuck themselves.

[-] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 9 points 3 weeks ago

Wont buy a smartphone without it

[-] Blaze@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 weeks ago

What do you currently use?

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[-] Blaze@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 weeks ago

What do you currently use?

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[-] sp6@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

I specifically bought a Pixel 5a because it was the last Pixel with a headphone jack. Then after a year, it died on me, and they sent me a 6a as a replacement.

I miss the jack. A lot. But it's hard to justify buying a whole new phone for one. Once this one dies, I don't know what I'll do.

[-] femtech@midwest.social 13 points 3 weeks ago

No, I stopped using it once I got wireless headphones. I hated hearing the cord brushing against my clothes while moving.

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[-] ToxicDivinity@hexbear.net 9 points 3 weeks ago

I'll only buy a phone with an audio jack and usbc port.

I think of my phone like a swiss army knife, it's a multi tool that I carry with me at all times and can be used for many different things. I like using wireless headphones and I usually connect via bluetooth but on the occasion that I need to plug a headset into my phone I am able to quickly and easily do that with no extra thought.

Why would I buy a new phone that has less features than my current phone?

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[-] Lojcs@lemm.ee -1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Turkish phone comparison site epey found 174

I switched to Bluetooth before the headphone jack disappeared. Bluetooth earphones stay in my ears easier without the weight of the cable constantly tugging down, and thus are more comfortable and easier to wear while moving / in non-upright positions. They also don't have the constant cable dangling noise. And they don't need the phone to provide their power which helps with battery life.

Edit: why the downvotes? I just answered the question

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