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submitted 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) by Blaze@lemmy.zip to c/android

(Posting this here rather than !askandroid@lemdro.id as it's a quite general question)

I had a look at the GSM Arena phone finder, and it the choice is getting smaller and smaller every year (only 43 phones from 2023, reviewed by the site, had a jack)

The remaining ones are mostly

  • Xiaomi Redmi
  • Zenfones
  • Sony
  • Samsung entry range

So, has everyone switched to Bluetooth / USB-C dongles, or are there still a few people holding to the jack until the very end?

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[-] limerod@reddthat.com 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I have been using wireless since 2022 and haven't looked back. Wires are such a mess I either used to get them tangled in stuff or my hands, they would drop out of my ears.

I currently use a Sony wh-ch510 since 2022 and it's been rock solid every day. The battery easily lasts a week for my usage. It's rated for 35hrs.

I also have a pair of lypertek z3 pureplay TWS. They are waterproof and boost 70hrs of battery life. Apart from that they also support wireless charging. The app is not the best but the sound quality is top notch.

Never returning to wires ever again. Now if you ask about sdcard slot, only if the phone supports 512gb-1TB of internal storage within a reasonable price point.

[-] Lojcs@lemm.ee -1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Turkish phone comparison site epey found 174

I switched to Bluetooth before the headphone jack disappeared. Bluetooth earphones stay in my ears easier without the weight of the cable constantly tugging down, and thus are more comfortable and easier to wear while moving / in non-upright positions. They also don't have the constant cable dangling noise. And they don't need the phone to provide their power which helps with battery life.

Edit: why the downvotes? I just answered the question

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[-] dmention7@lemm.ee 2 points 3 weeks ago

Begrudgingly given in.

Good fully wireless ear buds are truly an amazing convenience, but I value having flexibility and redundancy in my hardware more than having a slightly sleeker form factor. Thay includes things like removable battery, SD card slot, etc. Unfortunately, the market has spoken, and keeping those features limits you to a more and more niche selection every year. By now the tradeoff just isn't worth it to me.

As far as USB dongles, I seem to have enough problems with USB-C ports becoming loose or flaky for charging that I avoid using them except when necessary. Wireless chargers abound in my house.

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[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 0 points 3 weeks ago

I held out for a long time but, like you said, they're gone from almost every phone now.

Zenfone seems like a mostly-good phone but you're getting 2 years of software support, max. That's a huge dealbreaker.

I gave in when I traded in my Pixel 5 for a 7 about a year ago.

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[-] baatliwala@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago

Gave up, I use USB C to 3.5mm dongle

[-] card797@champserver.net 0 points 3 weeks ago

I never used the audio jack when it was on the phone. I don't use headphones with my phone. Those are for PC when playing at a LAN party.

[-] _NetNomad@kbin.run 8 points 3 weeks ago

i avoid anything wireless like the plague short of wifi. pairing is always a miserable process, and by the time everything is connected, the batteries are dead. it drives me absolutely bonkers. thankfully many motorolla phones still have 3.5mm jacks . i think my current model is the motorolla 5g stylus

[-] Shimitar@feddit.it 2 points 3 weeks ago

I consider myself an old fart, but you need to get out and do more experiences yourself.

Wireless Bluetooth headsets have been pretty nice for years. Don't go too cheap (but even cheap ones can be good) but don't waste too much money either on them and you will be fine.

Pairing today is smooth and easy, never had an issue in the last 5 years at very least. Battery life is pretty good, my tw buds get a week worth of charge at my usage (and I use them for daily sport training, calls and occasional video). They get charged automatically when I put them back in the box and the box itself recharge in like 30 minutes.

And you can use them one at a time, which is good to get truly unlimited "call time". .moreover, my model can both do noise cancelation or environment sound pass-trough which is amazingly good when running on asphalt (the latter) and trying to isolate in the office (the former).

Moreover having no chord dangling getting pulled and catching around is unreliable better experience.

I had to go back to wired a few times (forgot the wireless home..) And found how much worse experience that is.

Of course, I prefer the choice and I have always purchased a phone with audio jack and will do again if at the same price/hardware level.

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[-] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 6 points 3 weeks ago

Lol.

BT hasn't been that bad in years.

Rarely have problems with pairing, and have about a dozen BT devices in my house.

Batteries and power are so much better today I worry less about charging BT devices than my phone.

[-] femtech@midwest.social 13 points 3 weeks ago

No, I stopped using it once I got wireless headphones. I hated hearing the cord brushing against my clothes while moving.

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 3 points 3 weeks ago

You realize phones with headphone jacks ALSO have Bluetooth, right?

[-] Drigo@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 weeks ago

Why would he buy a phone with headphones jack, when the selection of phones is so shitty. And he is not even using the jack?

[-] MostlyGibberish@lemm.ee 6 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, once I made the switch to wireless earbuds, I didn't miss the jack at all. People have valid complaints about them, like the price and the limited battery, but I think the convenience is worth it.

[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 17 points 3 weeks ago

I used to hate Bluetooth, but that's because the early versions were terrible. Painful to connect, frequent drops and disconnects, and very short range and easy to block the signal.

Since Bluetooth 4 it's been great, and rock solid with Bluetooth 5. The only time I've had a problem is when I went into the other room and stood directly in front of a running microwave. I lost about half the signal until I took a step back.

Wireless headphones are far more convenient. Phone in my pocket, and I can walk around, clean the house, or work out at the gym, completely untethered.

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[-] Acamon@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

I really don't care. I use Bluetooth headphones a lot and find them convienient, and I bought adapters for the two wired jacks I might use (some fancier wired headphones and a wired input for my hi-fi). Given wires are already a bit awkward I really don't feel it makes any difference to add a little adapter to the end. I guess if I was wanting to plug my phone into lots of random headphone jacks while put and about, and didn't want to carry an adapter, it would be an annoyance but it really doesn't bother me in the slightest.

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[-] Ilandar@aussie.zone 1 points 3 weeks ago

I don't listen to music away from my desktop very often these days, as that experience has mostly been replaced by audiobooks and podcasts. So in a purely selfish sense, the disappearance of the 3.5 mm jack doesn't really affect me. I am content with Bluetooth for the majority of my use cases. However, I am still not convinced that the 3.5 mm jack had to disappear as early as it did or that engineers and designers can't find a way to include it on a modern, high end smartphone, so in that sense its disappearance annoys me. Until recently I have also been using a variety of 2017-18 era phones, all of which have a 3.5 mm jack, and it is very satisfying to have the occasional music listening session in a cosy setting like my bed with studio headphones plugged in.

The problem I have with Bluetooth vs wired, is the same problem I have with lossy vs lossless music and low vs high bitrate video. What frustrates me is not that I can immediately discern a difference (though depending on the material and comparison, sometimes it's quite obvious) but rather that if I think I hear an imperfection my immediate thought is "would this sound better through my wired headphones?". And as soon as that thought pops into my head I find myself actively listening for further imperfections to prove my theory, instead of just relaxing and enjoying the music like I intended to. With wired headphones I know that it's very unlikely there will be any quality problems and I can just get completely immersed in the experience.

[-] evo@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago

I switched to Bluetooth earbuds long before phones started removing the headphone jack...

[-] kokesh@lemmy.world -2 points 3 weeks ago

Honestly, what's the need for the jack? I've got Bluetooth earbuds and charger with BT/FM in my car.

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[-] ISOmorph@feddit.de 4 points 3 weeks ago

Still a requirement for me. I listen to music and podcasts while I run, and I run a lot. But I don't want to deal with the privacy issues of leaving my BT on when I leave home. And USB dongles physical connections just aren't as reliable with a lot of motion.

[-] Shimitar@feddit.it 0 points 3 weeks ago

I run also, and trust me try wireless, such a better experience without the entangling cables. Specially for sport.

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[-] smeg@feddit.uk 4 points 3 weeks ago

I always hated the noise you got from wired headphones every time you moved, so I was very happy as soon as wireless headphones stopped being terrible. Now I only use wireless so I really don't need a 3.5mm slot, and I can use an adapter on the off chance I do. Also I use GrapheneOS so it's not like I really have a choice!

[-] thequantumcog@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago
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[-] EarMaster@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

I bought some USB-C dongles when I switched, but I only used them once in several years to connect my phone to a rental car which had no Bluetooth audio.

[-] quinkin@lemmy.world -1 points 3 weeks ago

Given up. Bought a dongle for if I need it but mostly just Bluetooth now.

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl -1 points 3 weeks ago

I held out for a long time but, like you said, they're gone from almost every phone now.

Zenfone seems like a mostly-good phone but you're getting 2 years of software support, max. That's a huge dealbreaker.

I gave in when I traded in my Pixel 5 for a 7 about a year ago.

[-] Trev625@lemm.ee 1 points 3 weeks ago

I'm still using one with a jack (Asus ROG 5)

[-] nudnyekscentryk@szmer.info 1 points 3 weeks ago

I have a 3.5mm jack in my phone and I haven't used it once for the past two or three years I have used this device. I switched to a pair of tws Bluetooth earbuds in 2019 (around, but definitely pre-covid) and have used the same pair since. Everyone who claims Bluetooth earphones are unrecyclable electric garbage probably have never gotten a proper pair (which doesn't have to be expensive whatsoever) or any at all

[-] Ilandar@aussie.zone 0 points 3 weeks ago

I have had a similar experience to you. My earliest pair was bought in 2019 and their battery life is still really good. Perhaps I just don't listen as often or at the same level of volume as others. However, they are still objectively worse for the environment than wired earphones by virtue of the battery - there is no escaping that.

[-] Shimitar@feddit.it 1 points 3 weeks ago

I got a mildly expensive pair (100€) and are rock solid since I guess 2018 or 2019. Batteries still last as much as needed, and they never failed me. Battery last days with my usage and in any case, just recharge one while using the other. I use them for phone calls mostly, or movies, and lots of music while I run.

I also have a cheapo pair (30€) which still work from 2015/0216 but I didn't used them much since 2019, so...

[-] TheBest@midwest.social 2 points 3 weeks ago

Its definitely a nice to have feature. It didnt get regularly used because of wireless earbuds for me, but when I NEEDED it, it was always clutch. But I just keep a USB c dongle on my corded headphones now, its fine. Gets the job done.

Also for my wired IEMs, I use a wireless Bluetooth adapter. When I'm on the move I just need some noise not audiophile quality so its fine for me.

[-] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

I think it was probably eliminated a little too early, but I switched to a moderately cheap pair of Bluetooth earbuds while I still had a 3.5mm anyway, so I didn't really care. I don't even think I own a pair of 3.5mm headphones anymore, actually.

[-] TassieTosser@aussie.zone 3 points 3 weeks ago

Still using one with a jack. Other must haves for me are sd slot and tool less sim tray.

[-] rasakaf679@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

My preference while buying phone:

  • ">8GB ram"
  • ">250 GB storage"
  • 120Hz display
  • Battery capacity ">5500mah",
  • SD card option,
  • Headphone jack,
  • Pretty recent chip, if not the latest,
  • Waterproof ip68 minimum

I don't care wheather its Chinese or Taiwanese or American or any other.

I usually debloat the device on the first day. With ADB

[-] weew@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I tried to hold out, but for my current phone I prioritized camera quality over headphone jack. I definitely use the cameras more than the headphones.

With that being said, those two features are essentially mutually exclusive. Good cameras are a "flagship" feature, whereas lacking headphone jacks are also a flagship "feature."

The only exception is Sony, which unfortunately is very overpriced.

[-] ColdWater@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 weeks ago

I need headphone jack, because fuck doungle and Bluetooth headphones both are unreliable son of a bitch and they can burn in hell

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[-] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I haven't bought a new phone since I got my LG V20. Lack of headphone jack is among many reasons. There's nothing on the market that has all the features it does or even new features that make up for what I would be giving up if I got a new phone. I fear the day when I'm forced to get a new phone because it gets too out dated for my work apps.

[-] Shimitar@feddit.it 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Still on 3.5mm Jack. I have a poco x3 NFC. And would buy again a phone with a jack but...

No i don't use it much, maybe once in a while when I need headphones while my BT tw are charging or I forgot them home.

To be honest wired headphones are unpractical and messy and I always tend to tear them out of my hears. Usually only use them at my desk with my laptop while phone on bt headset.

So to be honest, jack is something I could do without but that would still be an inconvenience for the limited cases I would need.

So probably I would buy a phone without one... Granted I would always prefer one with the jack at same price/hardware point.

[-] videogamesandbeer@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

I've given up but I do wish there were better USB-C audio solutions. Android has always been lacking in the USB audio department and I have often been left feeling defeated when a car or other stereo system has USB audio input that only works with iPod/iPhone. It's just sad that even now with USB-C, audio output with Android is still so finicky.

[-] Geth@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 3 weeks ago

I gave up on it fairy easily, because after it was forced on us, the market also responded by flooding with cheap and decent options for headphones, which I started trying out and slowly I stopped using a wire with my phone.

I still think bluetooth is not great, with a lot of weird connection issues even on expensive devices, which was never a problem with a wire, but I do enjoy the freedom it offers.

[-] Auli@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 weeks ago

I was already using bluetooth headsets when they removed it so really didn't care.

[-] HorreC@kbin.social 9 points 3 weeks ago

I just add a usbc to audio/charging dongle to them. Getting a phone with a audio jack I feel like is when I wanted to keep the hardware keyboard, I was just walking the boulder up the hill I just was like there was an easy off that mountain.

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[-] ToxicDivinity@hexbear.net 9 points 3 weeks ago

I'll only buy a phone with an audio jack and usbc port.

I think of my phone like a swiss army knife, it's a multi tool that I carry with me at all times and can be used for many different things. I like using wireless headphones and I usually connect via bluetooth but on the occasion that I need to plug a headset into my phone I am able to quickly and easily do that with no extra thought.

Why would I buy a new phone that has less features than my current phone?

[-] thetreesaysbark@sh.itjust.works -2 points 3 weeks ago

Why would I buy a new phone that has less features...?

Because of all those time you need to take a picture of your feet underwater!

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[-] jacktherippah@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

I'm fine with Bluetooth. My earbuds and speakers all have Bluetooth nowadays.

[-] petrescatraian@libranet.de 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

@Blaze I'm not buying phones that often, but I recently changed to a Nokia G22 (yes, they also have phones with jack), and one of the things that made me decide on that was the jack as well. I got a pair of wireless headsets from work and I can say they're pretty good, but I am still not over the thought that I have one more thing to charge its battery every once in a while. Wired headphones are pretty much okay and I don't see any problem with them that would make me switch (at least right now).

Edit: I almost forgot. I also listen to the (FM) Radio, so I need the wired headsets to be used as an antenna.

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