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[–] grue@lemmy.world 63 points 2 years ago (4 children)

"Urban sprawl" is an oxymoron. Dense urban areas are good, actually; it's only the suburbs that sprawl.

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 47 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It should be called suburban sprawl

[–] merari42@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago

Agreed. Suburban sprawl I meant

It should be called the place with trees and loosely densely population that would be okay if cars weren't so ubiquitous because some people like space but let's make sure not to exclude minorities so people don't end up racist.

[–] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is not true? Lots of urban areas can sprawl, not least because of car centric planning (big car parks between islands of actual land use; roads built to ease the traffic of roads; urban 'islands' of tall and dense occupation connected by road with slivers of green in-between that don't serve to actually offer a natural environment. Kuala Lumpur features all of these, for example) but also as economic centres decline and become disused and new developments in other areas spread.

[–] psud@aussie.zone 2 points 2 years ago

Especially they sprawl when the developers are allowed to do as they please. They want the most profitable option, which is barren and opposed to what people and local government usually want

[–] BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Nah. Sprawl is real, I live in one of the worst offenders

[–] grue@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I know sprawl is real. I'm saying it isn't "urban."

[–] DaSaw@midwest.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] hglman@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Not really.

[–] scholar@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] grue@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Tokyo (mostly) isn't sprawl; that's just how much space 40 million people take up.

That's still urban sprawl though. It doesn't need to be inefficient, it just needs to be constantly expanding.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 38 points 2 years ago (1 children)

One does not simply walk to downtown. You MUST own a car.

[–] synae@lemmy.sdf.org 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Thankfully Boromir was wrong, and they do walk into Mordor. At least I don't have Shelob guarding the way when I go to the movie theater

[–] DrWeevilJammer@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"My name is KENNETH, ACKTUALLY, and you NEED A TICKET to see Spiderman"

[–] AFallingAnvil@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago

"No admittance after the show has started sir. It helps preserve the ambiance."

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 36 points 2 years ago

Where I live, rich urban areas have plenty of trees and frequently get more planted around. Meanwhile, poorer areas receive zero trees because "they don't have trees to receive maintenance".

[–] dantheclamman@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago

I normally don't post about my blog here, but I literally posted this today so...https://dantheclamman.blog/2024/04/24/environmentally-youve-got-to-hand-it-to-sauron/

[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 25 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Despite what you might think of Skynyrd, they cover this topic in a relatable way. Arcade Fire also covers it kind of. Sorry for the links but I'm a huge music nerd.

Around here, sprawl is a major issue. We have some of the most fertile soils in the world, and we pave over them without regard. It's abhorrent. I don't make the 'most fertile soils' comment lightly - this is my area of expertise, professionally. The only other places I can think of that have better soil quality than where I live are Russia and the Ukraine.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Despite what you might think of [Skynyrd]

I think they're amazing musicians and lyricists who held regressive viewpoints on certain issues which were more socially acceptable in their bygone era.

[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 years ago

Very much this. Well written and thoughtful comment, BTW.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Housing developments that scour the earth bare and named after that which they destroyed. Fox Run, Oak Ridge, Forest Brook, etc...

[–] wahming@monyet.cc 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Around here

Where's that, for those of us who aren't your neighbours? 😛

[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] wahming@monyet.cc 3 points 2 years ago

No wonder Ukraine and Russia have better soil quality, that's a pretty low bar.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

This little place called Earth.

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[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 21 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Also describes the orcs' drink they gave to the hobbits very much like you would describe coffee

[–] Skua@kbin.social 15 points 2 years ago

Doesn't Bilbo make actual coffee for the dwarves at the start of the Hobbit?

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Not even freshly ground... just like mass produced coffee

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

The best part of wakin’ up

Huh, I never interpreted it that way! Then again, I'm not a coffee drinker.

[–] Scrof@sopuli.xyz 14 points 2 years ago

Tolkien is but an average tree enjoyer.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago

Tree is good, no tree is sad. Sounds reasonable enough!