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As a nine year old I thought the Death Eaters were meant to be like the Nazis, but I guess Rowling is so dumb she didn't make the connection until after she wrote them?

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[-] 420stalin69@hexbear.net 110 points 1 month ago

Don’t the “good guys” in Harry Potter sort you into a life-defining group based on apparently innate qualities they determine by measuring your head?

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 64 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

most of the "good guys" have house elves, a species bred to be slaves. (but its no problem see they like being slaves)

im surprised it took us this long to notice the writer's, uh, tendencies..

[-] Tabitha@hexbear.net 27 points 1 month ago

most people only saw the movies where the screenwriters were smart enough to tone down some of this shit.

[-] ChestRockwell@hexbear.net 30 points 1 month ago

Still didn't tone down the goblins.

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[-] citrussy_capybara@hexbear.net 43 points 1 month ago
[-] Beaver@hexbear.net 29 points 1 month ago

...does the sorting hat literally just measure your skull?

[-] ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml 45 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Hmmm yes... stong brow ridge, aggressive... pronounced occipital protuberance... recessed frontal bone, not the brightest are we? But focused, shallow orbital plate... you have the phrenology of... a GRYFFINDOR!

[-] citrussy_capybara@hexbear.net 38 points 1 month ago

a skull-measuring device that can speak and read your thoughts to make it fun for kids

[-] Doubledee@hexbear.net 26 points 1 month ago

I think the idea is that it needs to be on your head in order to determine certain intangible things about you. The houses don't make much sense though and one of them is just "you're a fascist" so shrug-outta-hecks

[-] booty@hexbear.net 36 points 1 month ago

Well, just to try and be a bit fair (Rowling and HP both suck a lot, we can dunk on them entirely fairly) the sorting is explicitly quite arbitrary. Harry was told by the sorting hat that he'd be well suited to the nazi bad guy house, but he said he didn't like that idea so it stuck him in the good guy main character house instead. And it's not really life-defining as far as I remember, once you're out of school you can identify with it or ignore it as much as you want, it doesn't really follow you in any way on its own

[-] Doubledee@hexbear.net 50 points 1 month ago

Ironically Harry is so inert and cares so little about anything besides sports and defending the status quo that the hat was probably right in saying he'd make a good fascist. His only thoughts about endemic slavery are "I wish my nerd friend would stop being so annoying about all the slaves" and in book 2 he is preoccupied, not with the possibility that his ability to talk to snakes is an indicator that he's made bad decisions/might be doing something wrong, but that people are being rude to him because he appears to be a fascist.

[-] Tabitha@hexbear.net 20 points 1 month ago

it's like the political version of easily figuring out the author's thinly veiled fetish.

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[-] Leon_Frotsky@hexbear.net 35 points 1 month ago

doesn't really follow you in any way on its own

Except that all the members in the Hitler youth house ended up joining the wizard SS

[-] Chump@hexbear.net 20 points 1 month ago

No shame in the nazi game apparently

[-] Sons_of_Ferrix@hexbear.net 21 points 1 month ago

It's still weird that there's a house where pretty much everyone who joins it turns evil, yet the school doesn't ban them? Seriously, Snape is the only Slytherin who is arguably good but even he only did the right thing for incel reasons.

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[-] WeedReference420@hexbear.net 28 points 1 month ago

I remember reading the first book as a kid and being vaguely upset at the idea I could be segregated from my friends because of personality traits and shit

[-] zifnab25@hexbear.net 23 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Its an elite invite-only boarding school, so you're unlikely to know anybody when you arrive. But also, it tends to clump people together by family cough bloodline cough and common interests, so the theory is you'll make friends more quickly when you're coughWEAZEcough segregated into like-minded groups gaspGAGchoke fuck me its really bad the more I think about it, isn't it?

A bit more seriously, its not crazy unusual for schools and unis to organize people into fraternities and clubs and houses and other social units early on in your college career. Then you tend to just end up with these people as your friends by virtue of proximity. By applying a certain degree of blind randomness, or by sorting via interest and passion rather than letting people congeal based on their own historical biases, you get a better mix of students than you would if everyone just clumped by who they knew or thought they'd like.

The system doesn't have to be modern phrenology.

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[-] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 25 points 1 month ago

Meanwhile I'm just here wondering how many lice infestations the Sorting Hat has facilitated over the centuries

[-] zifnab25@hexbear.net 24 points 1 month ago

Christ, it hurts that you're just now making me realize this.

[-] edge@hexbear.net 23 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

From what I vaguely remember about the movie, it doesn’t really measure their head but more just reads their mind. Ostensibly it’s basically a personality test, but I think Harry pretty much told it what house to put him in.

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[-] assyrian@hexbear.net 89 points 1 month ago
[-] Des@hexbear.net 41 points 1 month ago

sooo good.

better then when Asimov tore apart 1984

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[-] LibsEatPoop@hexbear.net 32 points 1 month ago

Le Guin is the goat. My favorite author. Terry Pratchett too, but Le Guin's the goat.

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[-] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 89 points 1 month ago

Like the school houses, people mistake "pure-blood", "half-blood", and "muggle-born" as being original creations of Rowling despite being typical parts of British boarding school culture.

[-] Saeculum@hexbear.net 23 points 1 month ago

Aristocrat, New money and scholarship kid.

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[-] Guamer@hexbear.net 88 points 1 month ago

Me in 2024 learning what Germany was up to in the 30s and 40s

"They did WHAT"

[-] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 54 points 1 month ago

Steve Harvey at the Nuremberg trials

[-] Guamer@hexbear.net 38 points 1 month ago
[-] Sons_of_Ferrix@hexbear.net 19 points 1 month ago

To the who?

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[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 66 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I suspect she's trying to make herself seem better by coincidentally opposing Nazi ideology without even knowing about it. "I'm such a good person my book's villains were Nazis before I even knew what they were!"

🤡

[-] Magician@hexbear.net 55 points 1 month ago

Not at all, "I'm an adult who went decades without caring about one of the worst acts against humanity enough to know the basic facts."

[-] HexBroke@hexbear.net 32 points 1 month ago

Dovetails with her depiction of bankers as subhuman Jews

And that slavery arc with the slave loving the slavery

[-] djphdk@hexbear.net 55 points 1 month ago

She's just lying. Joanne also claimed she didn't know she had written a fantasy book until after the first Harry Potter was published.

She likes to pretend she was never influenced by anyone or any work, and came up with everything all on her own.

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[-] SSJ2Marx@hexbear.net 52 points 1 month ago

Is she really trying to pull the ol' "I've never even seen that movie, or that syndicated TV series based on the movie, so how could I copy it" trick on The Holocaust?

[-] betelgeuse@hexbear.net 41 points 1 month ago

Bragging about how you independently developed Nazism from scratch.

[-] Hello_Kitty_enjoyer@hexbear.net 22 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

imagine being in your 30s in a westoid country and not knowing what the nazis were

what a dumbass

[-] footfaults@hexbear.net 41 points 1 month ago

A Brit not knowing what the Nazis were?

doubt

[-] Self_Sealing_Stem_Bolt@hexbear.net 21 points 1 month ago

They pretend to not know to avoid admitting they agree with all of it

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[-] MaxOS@hexbear.net 40 points 1 month ago
[-] plinky@hexbear.net 38 points 1 month ago

not one drop rule or spanish castas?

fascinating education in terf island

[-] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 32 points 1 month ago

reprehensible minds think alike

[-] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 26 points 1 month ago

THIS is what we're losing a culture war to?

[-] newmou@hexbear.net 24 points 1 month ago

Lmao that’s fucking hilarious

[-] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 22 points 1 month ago

She's trying to hide her anti-Semitism.

Oh the goblins are all the negative stereotypes for Jews? I didn't know they had negative stereotypes until I visited the holocaust museum. I only knew good things about Jews. The goblin traits are co-incidental

[-] POKEMONGOTOTHEGULAG@hexbear.net 21 points 1 month ago

Deatheaters are boymoders sucking the life out of cisoids

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