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Last month Trump vowed to defend Christianity and urged Christians to vote for him

“This is really a battle between good and evil,” evangelical TV preacher Hank Kunneman says of the slew of criminal charges facing Donald Trump. “There’s something on President Trump that the enemy fears: It’s called the anointing.” 

The Nebraska pastor, who was speaking on cable news show “FlashPoint” last summer, is among several voices in Christian media pressing a message of Biblical proportions: The 2024 presidential race is a fight for America’s soul, and a persecuted Trump has God’s protection.

“They’re just trying to bankrupt him. They’re trying to take everything he’s got. They’re trying to put him in prison,” author, media personality and self-proclaimed prophet Lance Wallnau said in October on “The Jim Bakker Show”, an hour-long daily broadcast that focuses on news and revelations about the end times that it says we are living in.

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[-] GlassHalfHopeful@lemmy.ca 77 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Doesn't say much good about a person's god if Donald Trump is their envoy. Of all the people god could send, they chose him... 😏

May all pussies--man, woman, and every gender--be fortunate enough to experience the grab of his glorious, tiny, and orange hand.

Amen.

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[-] fuzzyspudkiss@midwest.social 67 points 7 months ago

If I believed that an antichrist could exist, I would be convinced it was Donald Trump. He is the opposite of what Christianity teaches yet somehow he's become their Messiah.

[-] seth@lemmy.world 22 points 7 months ago

In that warped eschatology subculture, a common belief is that the antichrist will be raised in the church and come to power by deceiving the church into thinking he's a prophet or messianic figure. Basically any authoritarian they choose to follow is the perfect figure to fit their beliefs. With Trump, for instance, they can point to "Christian" actions like blind support for Israel as the representatives of the original "chosen people" or his role in anti-choice enforcement or any us-vs-them conflict action that makes them feel like they are the current chosen people. Then if he turns out to be just another bad person who deceived them, they'll mark it off as a fluke, immediately forget all the evil they helped him do, and look for the next antichrist candidate.

Evangelicalism is a very sinister belief system. They literally want the rapture/tribulation to come about as soon as possible, preferably in their lifetime. They don't actually care about any of the people they think are non-chosen. I would say the Calvinists/Reformed Protestants are even worse, because they believe the verses about some people being ordained before birth to be "elected" by God to be saved without any say of their own, and the vast majority of people are also predestined for eternal destruction (https://www.learnreligions.com/five-point-calvinism-700356).

And they all vote.

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[-] Zron@lemmy.world 48 points 7 months ago

Hilarious to me that trump checks nearly every box for the literal antichrist, and the Christian’s love him.

[-] stoly@lemmy.world 37 points 7 months ago

Dude if Jesus appeared tomorrow the Republicans would line up to burn him. They don’t have real beliefs, just symbols.

[-] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 23 points 7 months ago

While I think they would nail him to a cross, without noticing the irony, rather than burn him, you're not wrong. Jesus is too woke for them.

Moore told NPR in an interview released Tuesday that multiple pastors had told him they would quote the Sermon on the Mount, specifically the part that says to “turn the other cheek,” when preaching. Someone would come up after the service and ask, “Where did you get those liberal talking points?”

“What was alarming to me is that in most of these scenarios, when the pastor would say, ‘I’m literally quoting Jesus Christ,’ the response would not be, ‘I apologize.’ The response would be, ‘Yes, but that doesn’t work anymore. That’s weak,’” Moore said. “When we get to the point where the teachings of Jesus himself are seen as subversive to us, then we’re in a crisis.”

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[-] Glytch@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago

That's makes sense actually, anitchrist means the End Times^TM are here. Christians see that as a good thing

[-] Zron@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago

But isn’t getting deceived by him supposed to get you an express ticket to hell?

You’d think they’d be a little more cautious

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[-] BreakDecks@lemmy.ml 13 points 7 months ago

Funnier yet that Jesus explictly warned against false profits like Trump.

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[-] eran_morad@lemmy.world 47 points 7 months ago

whose pussy would jesus grab?

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[-] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 46 points 7 months ago

So the best God could give you all is a narcissistic, socipathic manchild with a spray tan...? That's a big yikes. These people are delusional.

[-] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 19 points 7 months ago

If god gives you trump, you apologize, because you did something wrong.

[-] rainynight65@feddit.de 39 points 7 months ago

God gave us Trump...

... 'cause he ran out of fucking locusts.

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[-] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 39 points 7 months ago

My goodness are these people really this deluded?

Isn't donny dump like the exact personification of all the christian sins?

Greed(obviously)

sloth/gluttony (fatass loves Mc D's also obvious)

pride(uh, he's the best at everything according to him?)

Envy probably

Lust obviously

Wrath. I dunno, anger?

[-] Quadhammer@lemmy.world 29 points 7 months ago

They're dumb bro. Or they're evil. Or both

"Biden made grocery more expensive!"

Looks at multibillion dollar corps bribing congress

"I see nothing wrong here"

[-] stewie3128@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago

The book of Daniel lays out what the anti-christ will do and how he will behave. It describes Trump perfectly.

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[-] Xtallll@lemmy.blahaj.zone 38 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)
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[-] DevopsPalmer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 7 months ago

How are some people so ignorant to all the terrible things he's done? No one ever fact checks on anything and it's seriously depressing

[-] dustyData@lemmy.world 25 points 7 months ago

Remember this is not a failure of conclusions (Trump is sent by god), but a failure of proceedings (belief and faith is superior to facts and reality).

They lack the critical thinking skills to even begin to digest and elaborate an argument that relies of evidence and principled thinking. They don't evaluate reality on principles, they evaluate reality on emotion, identity and authority above all else. Therefore, fact checking is not even a possibility.

[-] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 19 points 7 months ago

He was already known as a sleazy conman and the butt of jokes for decades before he won in 2016. How could they not know?

[-] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 18 points 7 months ago

my guess is he's just so similar to the sleazy conmen in American mega churches

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[-] dan1101@lemm.ee 11 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I've heard many say they don't like what he has done but somehow he is still the best thing ever in spite of that.

Maybe it ties into the Christian redemption thing.

[-] aleph@lemm.ee 11 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

From what I gather, many evangelicals who support Trump see him as a fighter against a corrupt worldly government and a champion of their causes.

Then there's the MAGA concept, which plays into their Great Replacement paranoia (the fear that the white Protestant American majority is being replaced by non-whites and non-believers).

The fact that he is about as far from Christ-like as it's possible to be doesn't seem to deter them all that much.

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[-] KidnappedByKitties@lemm.ee 30 points 7 months ago

What happened to Romans 13:1

Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God.

They sure seemed eager to use that when Trump got into power.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 31 points 7 months ago

Same thing that happened to Mark 12:17

Then Jesus said to them, “Give back to Caesar what is Caesar’s and to God what is God’s.” And they were amazed at him.

And yet they do anything they can to avoid paying taxes.

And let's not forget Mark 10:25

It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the Kingdom of God.”

Yet they glorify a man who brags about how rich he is.

How is it that I, an atheist Jew, know Jesus better than they do?

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[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 30 points 7 months ago

please report this church to the IRS

[-] Aggravationstation@lemmy.ml 27 points 7 months ago

For the lord sayeth, thou shalt grab them by the pussy.

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[-] AnalogyAddict@lemmy.world 26 points 7 months ago

People thinking Trump is a Christian symbol is the biggest con ever.

[-] simplejack@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago

He's literally the antithesis of everything children are taught in Sunday school. Greedy, cheats on his wife, a bully, not humble, etc.

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[-] Kaput@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago

Anti-christ is a Christian symbol, It even fits in the end of time they're jerking off to.

[-] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 26 points 7 months ago

They do love a useful idiot.

[-] NobodyElse@sh.itjust.works 12 points 7 months ago

This is all such absolute insanity. So disappointed in the human race these days.

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[-] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 26 points 7 months ago

Umm, haha.. I hate to tell you, but you’ve been worshiping satan.

[-] BreakDecks@lemmy.ml 11 points 7 months ago

Don't you dare slander Satan this way!

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[-] voracitude@lemmy.world 23 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Sounds like these preachers want their tax-exempt status revoked.

[-] p3n@lemmy.world 19 points 7 months ago

22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name...23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’ Matt 7:22..., 23 NIV

[-] Buffaloaf@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago

Lol imagine meeting Jesus and he tells you to fuck off

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[-] SeaJ@lemm.ee 15 points 7 months ago

How is this not endorsing political candidates which means their tax exemption should be revoked?

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago

Tell the IRS to withdraw his tax-exempt status stat.

[-] Omgboom@lemmy.zip 12 points 7 months ago

Technically the antichrist is sent by God also

[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 12 points 7 months ago

a persecuted Trump has God's protection.

Nothing they need to do about it then. Their God wouldn't be so weak that 90 some court cases and a lack of funds could stop their Chosen One right?

[-] Glytch@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago

I get the feeling a carpenter-turned-messiah wouldn't choose a dude who is well known for not paying his contractors.

[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 10 points 7 months ago

They're trying to jail him!

... That's because he's a criminal, love.

[-] MeekerThanBeaker@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago

The man is the living embodiment of the seven deadly sins: pride, greed, lust, envy, gluttony, wrath, and sloth. And this is the guy God sent? Maybe there is a reason for that.

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