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[-] itappearsthat@hexbear.net 102 points 6 months ago

Keep your eye on the ball, people. If the dems literally never lose another election they should take the court back by 2050 and then start reversing all the terrible rulings that will happen in the next 25 years. I mean they won't actually do that last part because they'll treat those rulings as precedent, bricks in the great edifice of the american project we are all working together to build etc., but anyway I lost my train of thought

[-] lemmyseizethemeans@lemmygrad.ml 59 points 6 months ago
[-] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 43 points 6 months ago

this ruling is a travesty, it should have been 9 liberal justices unanimously voting le evil dorito mussolini back onto the ballot

if we vote hard enough we can accomplish this

[-] blakeus12@hexbear.net 15 points 6 months ago

I mean they won't actually do that last part because they'll treat those rulings as precedent, bricks in the great edifice of the american project we are all working together to build

there has never been a more true statement

[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 100 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Uh, oh. What was the vote? Do I want to know?

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While the decision was unanimous, the liberal justices wrote a sharp concurrence that accused the conservative majority of going further than needed

Oh! A sharp concurrence!

[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 45 points 6 months ago

It was unanimous to put him on the ballots

[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 53 points 6 months ago

While the decision was unanimous, the liberal justices wrote a sharp concurrence that accused the conservative majority of going further than needed

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[-] itappearsthat@hexbear.net 50 points 6 months ago

I have never read a harder cope sentence than "sharp concurrence". Like we make fun of these people for fetishizing losing and dissent, now they fetishize agreeing? What the actual fuck lmao?

[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 37 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I like etymology and looking things up. But I don't think I even did a quickie google of the judge/justice use of "concurrence" because legal shit can be so tedious.

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TIL - there's something even more lib than a "withering dissent". A "sharp concurrence" is the most lib thing possible. I thought a concurring opinion might be complicated. Nope. It's very simple.

Concurring opinion

In law, a concurring opinion is in certain legal systems a written opinion by one or more judges of a court which agrees with the decision made by the majority of the court, but states different (or additional) reasons as the basis for their decision.

[-] D61@hexbear.net 9 points 6 months ago

"A sternly unpleasant glare" dennis-stare

[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Sotomayor Raised an Eyebrow after EVERY Ruling by Supercilious plays.

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supercilious [] Etymology: early 1500s from Latin superciliosus "haughty", from supercilium "eyebrow".

[-] VILenin@hexbear.net 30 points 6 months ago

But they agreed dissidently!

[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 30 points 6 months ago
[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 37 points 6 months ago

I better become a malevolent ghost so I can haunt Israel or there will be hell to pay!

[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 23 points 6 months ago

Anyone know any good necromantic rituals?

[-] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 31 points 6 months ago

juche-rose how do we not have any juche necromancy emojis with all the fucking memeing we do about it

[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 19 points 6 months ago

Sometimes we must be the change we want to see in the world

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[-] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 37 points 6 months ago

ain't that the dems in a nutshell. "you're doing exactly what we would do, but too much and too loud!"

[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 16 points 6 months ago

The rollin' coal Trump Train leads to fascism.

The Trump Train with the lib caboose also leads to fascism. But it's important to recognize that it's a diesel and it goes slower. Also the libs want Americans to know they are working as hard as they are able are to get permission to paint a rainbow flag on their train car.

[-] wopazoo@hexbear.net 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I'm pretty sure diesel trains are faster than coal trains. After all, Hitler didn't actually win any elections; he was appointed by Paul von Hindenburg.

[-] CliffordBigRedDog@hexbear.net 19 points 6 months ago

"Sharp concurrence" lol

Cannot write a more succinct and damning summary of democrats and libs in general

[-] edge@hexbear.net 12 points 6 months ago

I didn't know "scathing dissent" had an even worse sibling.

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[-] zifnab25@hexbear.net 62 points 6 months ago

Democrats learned their lesson with FDR. Can't risk having too much power or you might be expected to use it.

[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 30 points 6 months ago

"We, democrats, have learned our lesson with FDR. We can't risk having too much power or we might be expected to use it." The narrator says: "Biden/Harris 2024." Tired Old Joe comes back and says: "I'm Joe Biden and I approve this message."

[-] Leon_Grotsky@hexbear.net 59 points 6 months ago

Damn, that's crazy. Sounds like the US supreme court is some kind of fascist institution that the Joe Biden administration will surely destroy in their efforts to prevent American Fascism, Right?

[-] plinky@hexbear.net 43 points 6 months ago

court dem judges are like living civility bits

[-] Magician@hexbear.net 41 points 6 months ago

This is the most important election...

[-] NewLeaf@hexbear.net 26 points 6 months ago
[-] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 38 points 6 months ago
[-] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 38 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

NOTHING WILL FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE

WE NEED TO PRESERVE FAITH IN THE INSTITUTIONS

lmao awesome country tbh. i hope they do it again the exact same but bitcoin is involved somehow.

[-] axont@hexbear.net 36 points 6 months ago

Would liberals have even wanted this to pass? Indiana or Florida or any of the other states where Republicans do wacky shit would have instantly kicked Biden off the ballot.

[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 31 points 6 months ago

Yeah, but they also wanted the Supreme Court to be like "Yeah, Trump did a sedition"

Not even realizing that it was never going to happen because of civility

[-] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 28 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

They don't need to drop that particular mask yet because they've already made it hellish to vote outside the suburbs

[-] Feinsteins_Ghost@hexbear.net 30 points 6 months ago

and a vast majority of blue maga will be happy for this. Balance, or some horse shit like that.

[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 29 points 6 months ago

Bit idea

It is a time of miracles! In the first miracle - the dems take the house, get more seats in the senate, and Biden wins. In the second miracle - Biden says "We will pack the court." Note that he goes whole hog and doesn't even say "expand". The third miracle is he actually he says they have the votes and they will pass the law in Biden's first 100 days even though Fetterman is suddenly squishy and hints he might "jump ship" but he doesn't elaborate.

In the meantime all six GOP justices do something extremely unusual. They give interviews to very friendly right-wing media outlets. They say they have discovered a legal concept which means they can find court expansion unconstitutional. In the fourth miracle - the dems create a filibuster carveout and pass their court expansion law and threaten to "do something drastic" if the GOP justices find it unconstitutional. Lib experts all say "The conservative justices are bluffing. They cannot do this!"

The court rules 9-0 that it's unconstitutional. The 3 lib justices again issue a sharp concurrence. A few days later Justice Kagan is caught on a hot mic saying "I would have voted with the conservative judges anyway. A 6-3 ruling would cause the public to lose faith in the court as an institution. Even worse it would damage the all-important comity that exists between the justices."

[-] bestmiaou@lemmygrad.ml 28 points 6 months ago

the coolest part of the ruling is that congress gets to decide what "insurrection" means re: the 14th amendment. get ready for a whole lot of red baiting targeting the most centrist of dems so that they can be "credibly accused" of insurrection.

[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 28 points 6 months ago

The Lathe strikes again

[-] emizeko@hexbear.net 27 points 6 months ago

god gives his strongest challenges to his most powerful warriors

[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 20 points 6 months ago

Every liberal a fascist.

[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 19 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Lawrence Tribe (a super lib legal guy) and Michael Luttig (a super right-wing legal guy) were key in pushing the concept that Trump was disqualified by the 14th Amendment section 3 and that it was "self-executing". Whatever the fuck that was supposed to mean.

Here's Luttig's copium tweet thread. I had to edit it because the it was a mess and the run on sentences turned it into gibberish. It's still very hard to understand because he's making a huge effort to obfuscate.

My thoughts about the Supreme Court's decision today, with CNN's Jake Tapper just now. The ruling is astonishing and unprecedented. Not for its decision of the exceedingly narrow — and only — question presented though, significantly, four of the Justices agreed only with the "result" of that decision, and not with its reasoning.

But rather, for the five-Justice majority's decision to reach out gratuitously and decide essentially all of the equally, if not more momentous, constitutional questions that would need to be decided in order for the former president or any other person in the future to be disqualified under the Fourteenth Amendment.

And in the course of unnecessarily deciding all of these questions when they were not even presented by the case, the five-Justice majority effectively decided not only that the former president will never be subject to disqualification, but that no person who ever engages in an insurrection against the Constitution of the United States in the future will be disqualified under the Fourteenth Amendment's Disqualification Clause.

The concurrence of Justices Sotomayor, Kagan, and Jackson witheringly explains this.

Tweet

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[-] wtypstanaccount04@hexbear.net 16 points 6 months ago

Ah, nevertheless,

[-] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 6 months ago

Damn, my money was on them kicking that can down the road and refusing to actually commit to anything until after the election.

[-] VILenin@hexbear.net 18 points 6 months ago

My money is always on the latest lib attempt at taking down Trump failing in the most pathetic way possible, and I am very rarely mistaken

[-] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 6 months ago

That was my mistake, I was assuming the lib desire to do as little effective work as possible would override their desire to be pathetic. Rookie mistake really.

[-] farting_weedman@hexbear.net 12 points 6 months ago

Turns out states can’t kick people off the ballot for stuff they haven’t even been charged with, let alone convicted of. Even a stopped clock.

[-] marxisthayaca@hexbear.net 11 points 6 months ago

Honestly they could have let Trump off the ballot and forced congress to address this issue before the primaries with a federal law. What a joke country.

[-] Goatithro@hexbear.net 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I think they decided this case correctly but what’s fucked is that they didn’t apply the same logic of federal enforcement aka “states have the right to suck it” to the voting rights act cases. The 15th uses the same language the 14th does in its enforcement clause.

[-] collapse_already@lemmy.ml 9 points 6 months ago

The unanswered question: how much treason and insurrection is enough to get kicked off the ballot? There has to be a threshold out there somewhere.

[-] Egon@hexbear.net 14 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

bugs-no When they go low, we go high, and kicking them off the ballot would be uncivil

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[-] screwthisdumbcrap@hexbear.net 7 points 6 months ago

Ah well, nevertheless

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