Ghost in the Shell was an unnecessary remake of a fantastic original animation that was improved by the series that followed it. There was never a need for a live action version.
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Ghost in the shell was decent. They paid incredible attention to the art direction and casting ranged from perfect to acceptable. I can’t remember a single scene but their rendering of 90s retrofuturism sincerely blew me away. Maybe modern cinema has tainted me but it really wasn’t terrible.
It could have been an acceptably decent movie if it wasn't trying to be part of the GitS franchise. As a GitS fan I hated it, but I wonder if it could have been more fun to watch if I was unfamiliar with the series. I remember thinking the same with a lot of movies based on books I hadn't read like Percy Jackson, the movie became a lot worse after reading the source material.
Basically that's what they did with Ocean's 11. The original Frank Sinatra version was shit. But it was a good idea, a crew of super cool dudes get together to rob a casino.
They remade it and it was very successful.
The Thing has a similar origin.
But it's rare things like that happen because Hollywood execs usually need an existing property with good numbers to greenlight a movie.
For a second I thought you were trying to say that The Thing (2011) is a better remake of The Thing (1982), but then I remembered that 1951 version exists.
You mean take actual risks?????
No, none of that for my profit margin
Movies are being made to mitigate risk. Take a polar thing and just do that again, that'll suck people in right???
God forbid they do something new and interesting with the material, that can't possibly work.
The only time I can think of where a remake ended up working out was with the recent planet of the apes movies. Where, you know, they took the premise and did something new and interesting with it. But even THEN, there was a completely different remake that failed to innovate outside of the last few minutes and those were confusing are best.
I'd go one further. Do longer run remakes for good source material that ended up with a bad movie.
Golden Compass Movie = bad
His Dark Materials limited series = fantastic
Do longer run remakes for good source material that ended up with a bad movie.
I immediately thought The Hobbit for some reason.
God that trilogy was so painful.
I immediately thought The Hobbit for some reason.
God that trilogy was so painful.
That doesn't count. There was a bunch of stuff in those movie that never happened in the source material.
I think remaking it with less.
I even watched the fan edit, and it was still too much.
Which one? I'm a fan of the cardinal cut, but that still ends up being over three and half hour long.
Word War Z.
Have it actually be a mocumentary with interviews. Once people start talking switch to the scene. It is a collection of short stories. Would be fun.
Or make it a mini series.
Some older movies that come to mind: Enemy Mine. Great sci fi premise that was ahead of its time. Just plagued with bad effects and limitations.
The Last Starfighter Not bad even for the day but I think it's a solid enough concept that could use a refresh. Set in the 80's to get the retro video game vibe. I think it could even be a multiple movie property.
Masters of the Universe It was a goofy premise with some interesting characters that were wasted. Even the updated animated series didn't do great. Or even go off in a space Western and do a Rio Blast movie.
Krull was really missing the visual elements to tell the story and it ended up cheesy and stilted (still holds some nostalgia for me though). It could still be a fun space fantasy.
I would love a proper remake of Eragon. That movie felt so rushed, like they just chopped the meat out of the story and gave us the bloody mush instead of the whole thing.
They are doing a series right now.
They are?? How did I not know about this?
There were many news in summer that Disney is producing one for Disney+
Ah shit
I'd like that
The dark tower
eragon
the hobbit
fantastic 4
I don't understand why they didn't do The Hobbit first.
Virtually every single bad adaptation can be directly traced back to studio interference.
Movies like LoTR only happened because the studios thought it would be a colossal flop, and so left the directors and producers alone.
If you want great movies, the studios need to leave the producers and directors the hell alone.
Counterpoint: Game of Thrones. The studio would have been happy to give them a few more seasons to develop a better ending. It's the creators who gave up and phoned in the ending we got.
George RR Martin is the creator of game of thrones, not the show runners.
Oh wait, the original example was lotr, which also was based on books lol. Nevermind me, carry on.
Writing is the only thing that matters. I point to "Everything Everywhere All at Once" and "Amsterdam". The latter of which had 4x the budget.
Why not just read a book, then?
This is how we've ended up with 17 different attempts at the fucking Fantastic Four. Each one is shit, and EVERY director thinks that they've got the chops to make it work.
Hollywood...please....fucking stop. It doesn't get better. It's a cursed movie. Stop fucking trying to get the Fantastic Four to work. Just....put the poor thing out of its misery and let it sleep peacefully.
Your aim: logic.
Their aim: capitalism.
:-(
They have. Dune would be one example.
I don't care what anyone says, the worldbuilding that was done for the 1990s Super Mario Bros. movie was awesome and if the movie had lived up to it, it would have been great.
Remember that when the movie was made, Mario was a plumber that jumped on mushrooms and turtles to save a princess and he had a brother named Luigi that did the same thing. That was pretty much the entire storyline they had to work with.
TV series too? Altered Carbon seasons 2 & 3 please!
This!
Sorry, I meant books 2&3, merging them into a single, bad, season :(
Well, there's Dredd.
I don't consider it a remake. The story is totally different.
I think instead of this they should just start doing more high profile versions of what they already do sometimes, where they bring back movies that were already in the theater once for another go around, instead of just remaking everything all the time. I'd also give this a +2 if it was a movie that was old, and you have to rent instead of just being able to watch on some service. Like Legend (1985), or maybe Brazil (1985). Maybe there are some other movies from 1985, I dunno.
Rent? Watch on a service? This is Lemmy. We’re pirates ‘round here.
I can get you nice digital copies of laser disk, VHS, 35mm, DVD, Blu-Ray, or web. Why on earth would I wait for Hollywood to tell me when I can watch the Mouse and the Motorcycle again?
Like Dune? Like Dune.
Nah the original was great. Idk but old shitty VFX do something for me.