We do need copyright reform, but also fuck "AI." I couldn't care less about them infringing on proprietary works, but they're also infringing on copyleft works and for that they deserve to be shut the fuck down.

Either that, or all the output of their "AI" needs to be copyleft.

Going one step deeper, at the source, it's oligarchy and companies owning the law and in consequence also its enforcement.

If this is what it takes to get copyright reform, just granting tech companies unlimited power to hoover up whatever they want and put it in their models, it's not going to be the egalitarian sort of copyright reform that we need. Instead, we will just getting a carve out just for this, which is ridiculous.

There are small creators who do need at least some sort of copyright control, because ultimately people should be paid for the work they do. Artists who work on commission are the people in the direct firing line of generative AI, both in commissions and in their day jobs. This will harm them more than any particular company. I don't think models will suffer if they can only include works in the public domain, if the public domain starts in 2003, but that's not the kind of copyright protection that Amazon, Google, Facebook, etc. want, and that's not what they're going to ask for.

This is simply not stealing. Viewing content has never ever ever been stealing.

There is no view right.

Bu-bu-but you didn't think of my investors!

relevant xkcd

Let's just find and island and Australia them.

I saw that! Brick killed a guy! Did you throw a trident?

Yeah, there were horses, and a man on fire, and I killed a guy with a trident!

Brick, I've been meaning to talk to you about that. You should find yourself a safehouse or a relative close by. Lay low for a while, because you're probably wanted for murder.

I fear this is a giant power grab. What this will lead to is that IP holders, those that own the content that AI needs to train will dictate prices. So all the social media content you kindly gave reddit, facebook, twitter, pictures, all that stuff means you won't be able to have any free AI software.

No free / open source AI software means there is a massive power imbalance because now only those who can afford to buy this training data and do it, any they are forced to maximize profits (and naturally inclined anyway).

Basically they will own the "means of generation" while we won't.

I know plenty of small creators who urge me to pirate their content.

Because all they want is people to enjoy their content, and piracy helps spread their art.

So even small creators are against copyright.

"technically this thievery isn't covered by law"

"technically this what?”

"OBJECTION!”

Don't forget that they will then switch sides and try to copyright "their work", preventing others from even thinking about their work without paying the toll.

Hey, what if I were to draw two circles...

COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT!

Copyright should ceise to exist and sharing digital copies of any content should be a protected right. The best software is foss anyway.

But if i cant have that i will settle for techbross going to jail for mass theft. Either the law is equal or it is unlawful.

Or their victims will realize they got scammed.

As Robert Evan’s put it: “If we can’t steal every book ever written, we’ll go broke!”

A scammer made unreasonable promises to investors and is now warning everyone that their victims/investors are going to lose money when the process of making fair laws takes the typical amount of time that it always takes.

They made investments and projections on their business based on the current laws and they'll be sad if the laws change now.