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[–] cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 1 points 14 hours ago

NopeChuck Testa

[–] cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 2 points 15 hours ago

from page 7 of Joseph Weizenbaum's Computer Power and Human Reason: From Judgement to Calculation (1976):

screenshot of PDF of page 7: Introductionintimate thoughts; clear evidence that people were conversing withthe computer as if it were a person who could be appropriately andusefully addressed in intimate terms. I knew of course that peopleform all sorts of emotional bonds to machines, for example, to mu-sical instruments, motorcycles, and cars. And I knew from long ex-perience that the strong emotional ties many programmers have totheir computers are often formed after only short exposures to theirmachines. What I had not realized is that extremely short exposuresto a relatively simple computer program could induce powerful de-lusional thinking in quite normal people. This insight led me toattach new importance to questions of the relationship between theindividual and the computer, and hence to resolve to think aboutthem,3. Another widespread, and to me surprising, reaction to theELIZA program was the spread of a belief that it demonstrated ageneral solution to the problem of computer understanding of natu-ral language. In my paper, I had tried to say that no general solutionto that problem was possible, ie., that language is understood onlyin contextual frameworks, that even these can be shared by peopleto only a limited extent, and that consequently even people are notembodiments of any such general solution. But these conclusionswere often ignored, In any case, ELIZA was such a small and simplestep. Its contribution was, if any at all, only to vividly underline whatmany others had long ago discovered, namely, the importance ofcontext to language understanding. The subsequent, much moreelegant, and surely more important work of Winograd in computercomprehension of English is currently being misinterpreted just asELIZA was. This reaction to ELIZA showed me more vividly thananything I had seen hitherto the enormously exaggerated attribu-tions an even well-educated audience is capable of making, evenstrives to make, to a technology it does not understand. Surely, Ithought, decisions made by the general public about emergent tech-nologies depend much more on what that public attributes to suchtechnologies than on what they actually are or can and cannot do. If,as appeared to be the case, the public's attributions are wildly mis-conceived, then public decisions are bound to be misguided and

a pdf of the whole book is available here

[–] cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Fluxer in particular seems a little ahead of Stoat with screen sharing and video calls

That is surprising since Fluxer started last month (and its wikipedia article was started today) while Stoat has been around since 2021 (it was called Revolt until it renamed last year).

Stoat does have voice and video and screensharing in their desktop+web clients at least, but as of this comment in August it still wasn't implemented in mobile clients. And also it wasn't/isn't enabled on their flagship instance due to the high cost of running a free video relay.

I’m rooting for Fluxer now though because they’re AGPLv3 without a CLA. So the code will be free forever.

Stoat is also AGPLv3; do they require copyright assignment? From a quick look I didn't see any indication that they do.

[–] cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Is that the UTC-0500 one?

lmao thanks for the reminder that there are four timezones which could be called "EST" 😭

(but UTC-5 is the only one properly called that)

 

find the post in !startrek@startrek.website to participate from another instance

[–] cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 days ago

so, you disagree with his racism and fascism but you think it's unfair that he be called a Nazi collaborator because there were also other Nazi collaborators who don't get as many statues in the US? weird take 🤔

Btw, Mannerheim was obviously also a Nazi collaborator, but the situation for Jews in Finland during WWII was much less dire than it was in Ukraine.

[–] cypherpunks@lemmy.ml -1 points 5 days ago

DARRYL, SOCRATES' FRIEND:

[–] cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 26 points 5 days ago (3 children)

screenshot looks fake (i don't know what renders quote tweets like that), but it is real

 
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