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It's the dunk tank.

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they are a legitimate threat to freedom and to anti-authoritarian leftists,

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we shouldn't allow these people to exist in the internet free

https://old.reddit.com/r/tankiejerk/comments/197l9ik/tankie_is_not_offensive_anymore/

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[–] DoiDoi@hexbear.net 108 points 10 months ago (4 children)

If tankies can will the term to no longer be shameful then why can't we insist that it still is? Do the tankies have a +1 rhetoric buff that we don't or something?

peltier-laugh

[–] Rom@hexbear.net 90 points 10 months ago

Do the tankies have a +1 rhetoric buff that we don't or something?

Yeah it's called theory theory-gary

[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 69 points 10 months ago

Yea turns out not giving a shit what a bunch of liberals with so little political knowledge they call Bernie a communist think is basically a secret weapon.

[–] Comp4@hexbear.net 61 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Liberals use Tankie. Chuds use Woke. Horseshoe theory confirmed ?!?!

Why would tankie be shameful ? If someone gets called a tankie I can assume that person is cool and groovy. Even people who are low on the tankie scale are usually much better than the average lib. If anything getting called a tankie is a seal of approval.

To put it simple if you dont want to destroy the west and neoliberal hegemony what are you even doing ?

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[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 97 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Oh look, libs, the great deadening force of liberalism that steamrolls all political distinction into shapeless paste, has you suddenly concerned that your false equivalence bullshit has cheapened a term that, while already meaningless to you, relied on other people giving a shit to give it meaning and purchase while you smugged your way through life.

You got what you want and you hate it. Not my problem. Eat up, libs. You spineless stand-for-nothing cowards. I'll put the slop bowl on the floor so you can reach it

[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 33 points 10 months ago
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[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 85 points 10 months ago (1 children)

lmao these people talk as if they're actually doing anything on the ground. At least anarchists fight proud boys.

[–] axont@hexbear.net 68 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (6 children)

For real, and even among anarchists on the ground I've only met like 3 who used the word tankie. All three were weird though. One guy said the library next to where we hand out food is a "tankie library" because there were Marx and Lenin books in the socialism section. Another guy used the term tankie but I don't think he knew what it meant, since he'd refer to the cops as tankies. The other person would say tankie as shorthand for militant atheists.

But in all those three cases those people still hand out food and help people so they're light-years ahead of the bozos on r*ddit

[–] Rom@hexbear.net 50 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Another guy used the term tankie but I don't think he knew what it meant, since he'd refer to the cops as tankies

Using "tankie" to mean "someone who has tanks" kinda rules. I like this guy's energy.

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[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 84 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Wrong. I care about being a tankie. Mostly because when a lib calls me a tankie that's how I know I'm doing something right party-sicko

[–] Rom@hexbear.net 47 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It's a great term because like "woke" you can immediately figure out where they stand politically, and it also tells you that their opinions are completely worthless and can be ignored.

[–] Utter_Karate@hexbear.net 81 points 10 months ago (2 children)

"We anti-authoritarian leftists should not allow these people to exist."

That is a hell of a way to close your post unbidden.

[–] roux@hexbear.net 37 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Especially after suggestion a whole ass group shouldn't exist and waxing poetic about using red-fash, which is in and of itself, a fascist fucking dog whistle.

E: dog whistle might not be the right word?

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[–] very_poggers_gay@hexbear.net 73 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This is an Anti-Tankie reddit. The message you sent is either tankie/authoritarian "socialist" apologia or can be easily seen as such. Please, refrain from posting stuff like this in the future.

When your brand of anti-left leftism is so coherent and robust that you need an automod to delete posts that might disrupt the circlejerk

Sounds authoritarian [Where's that damn emote of the person in a well? lol]

[–] flan@hexbear.net 72 points 10 months ago (1 children)

what should we do?

Log off you weird fucking dweebs.

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 44 points 10 months ago

Nice try Tankie, but touching grass is exactly what the Red Fash Winnie the Pooh CEE CEE PEE wants us to do!

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 71 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (9 children)

I was literally just now saying to @emizeko@hexbear.net that this is why we need to formalise the tactic rather than just breaking down individual uses of the tactic like "tankie".

This tactic is in use in so many ways. It's being popularly referred to as "thought-terminating cliche", which might end up the name of the tactic when it's formalised. Things like calling everyone a "terrorist" to stop any thought about what they're doing or why. "Tankie". "Woke". "SJW". Etc etc. This tactic is in significant usage and any time you break down the usage of an individual word they create a new one, so you're always going to fight this battle that way.

To fight this properly we need to go one step higher, don't attack just the individual usage but attacking the tactic itself too.

In order to do this we need to formalise this tactic in language and popularise it in order to drastically undercut its ability to be used. By formalising it as a bad thing (like fallacy shit) the libs and debatebros start calling it out when they see it. This way we could weaken its ability to be used considerably.

We need the technique to be picked up and talked of by orgs and academically. We need some people to write about the phenomenon/tactic itself so that those articles can then be pointed to as sources for its existence, and then wiki and other shit can get made for it to further cement it as a recognised formal language thing. From that point onwards it's just a matter of repeatedly pointing to the articles and shit to spread it more and more and more. It'll take on a life of its own and considerably wreck the tactic.

I think this is actually really worthwhile doing as it's one of the most common tactics of the US information and thought control system.

There is a very clear process of steps we can take.

[–] RedQuestionAsker2@hexbear.net 33 points 10 months ago (5 children)

As someone with a background in writing (like every other commie), I'd be happy to contribute in some way to this. However, I don't really know what actionable step could be taken.

I also worry that the technique would be pretty quickly coopted, and the terms "fascist" and "racist" would be defined as thought terminating cliches. It's already started with the "not everyone you disagree with is a fascist" line

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[–] PaulSmackage@hexbear.net 69 points 10 months ago (12 children)

Reddit brained nonsense. These all suck.

[–] PaulSmackage@hexbear.net 89 points 10 months ago (3 children)
[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 79 points 10 months ago

So anti-authoritarian

[–] GnastyGnuts@hexbear.net 57 points 10 months ago

For real though, the most these people could ever accomplish is to be modern Rosa-killers.

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[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 82 points 10 months ago (1 children)

"Guantanamo landlord"

Oh yea rhats deffinitly something that would piss off socialists, criticizing guantanamo bay.

[–] GnastyGnuts@hexbear.net 64 points 10 months ago (2 children)

They might actually think Cuba is in charge of Guantanamo.

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[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 69 points 10 months ago

If you live in a country dominated 99.98% by the rightwing and you spend all your time online crusading against “tankies” and punching left you are just an anti-communist chud

[–] GnastyGnuts@hexbear.net 68 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I feel like it's a decent bet that neither the OP of that post nor the majority of people replying have ever even given food or money to a homeless person.

[–] The_Jewish_Cuban@hexbear.net 53 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I haven't but that's because I live in authoritarian tankie land without any homelessness

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[–] GarfGirl@hexbear.net 66 points 10 months ago (1 children)

average left anti communist

[–] alcoholicorn@hexbear.net 46 points 10 months ago

Cracker or Gusano?

[–] cricbuzz@hexbear.net 66 points 10 months ago

shidding and pissing liberals: they aren't offended by the name we're calling them, what should we do?!

meanwhile, tankies sit-back-and-enjoy

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 65 points 10 months ago

Langley worshippers growing increasingly uncomfortable with the implications of their astroturfed ideology che-smile

[–] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 64 points 10 months ago (1 children)

legitimate threat to freedom

dean-frown

Whomever you think the "tankies" are pose no threat to anyone or anything you absolute dweeb, they're nerds posting on the internet just like you are

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[–] SerLava@hexbear.net 62 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (6 children)

That reminds me, I wanted to make a right wing Twitter account that just comments on Steelers tweets, attempts to flirt with porn phishing accounts, and calls centrist liberals "tankie"

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[–] macabrett@hexbear.net 57 points 10 months ago (1 children)

congrats hexbear, we don't even have to reply to win this posting war

they're just that bad at posting

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[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 56 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

they proclaimed the term

Reclaimed?

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[–] axont@hexbear.net 53 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

I think these modern liberals would refer to those original British Trots as tankies, the ones who coined the term. Decades of propaganda and a weakened left in the west has resulted in these oddball social democrats who claim to be far more leftist than they actually are, because revolutionary socialism is too scary or something. Or they think foreigners are scary.

Also "this influences the real world and people's movements" lmao no it does not. Calling someone a tankie on Twitter repeatedly doesn't do shit. This is really a good insight into how these bozos think, isn't it? They think debates online do anything.

[–] Philosoraptor@hexbear.net 34 points 10 months ago

This is also why we occasionally get ledditors coming in here saying that we should be nicer and less aggressive in order to do "less harm to our movement." The idea that there are significant swathes of the user base here actually engaged in real world praxis and that this place is mostly somewhere for us to shitpost with like-minded people is unfathomable, because to them arguing on the internet is the pinnacle of political activity (along with turning out to vote ).

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[–] Dr_Gabriel_Aby@hexbear.net 50 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Universal healthcare being called socialist made me a socialist.

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[–] Fishroot@hexbear.net 48 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Calling everyone that is a left adjacent non westerner a ''tankie'' has the same equivalent in calling every brown person with a gun a terrorist

It's political stupidity at best and racism at worst

[–] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 44 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I for one think both the teacher and the schoolyard recess monitor need to be made aware of the depredations of these red fash tankies. It's that serious.

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[–] WhatDoYouMeanPodcast@hexbear.net 41 points 10 months ago

God what a fucking dork. This is the political equivalent of the Tetris effect. I need to go outside, but this loser needs to GO OUTSIDE.

When we called right wingers chuds, 4chan was all "a chud worked out today, it was me." If you ever wanted to engage, it seems like it would serve you to relish in the title. A tankie is going to start a union vote today or an anarchist is going to work ALONGSIDE a tankchud, it's me. Even on some looks like my sexual pathology got the best of me. Give me your toothbrush. Someone with an axe to grind about authoritarianism can't balance that with the irony. If they could they'd probably have something better to do.

[–] Hello_Kitty_enjoyer@hexbear.net 41 points 10 months ago (1 children)
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[–] sharedburdens@hexbear.net 40 points 10 months ago

Tankies are being a threat to domestic security by naysaying the 4th reich sending more tanks into ukraine! We must eradicate these TERRORIST AUTHORITARIANS rage-cry

[–] wombat@hexbear.net 34 points 10 months ago

say it loud, tankie and proud

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