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[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 89 points 6 days ago

Getting these two after eachother is fate

[–] spicytuna62@lemmy.world 46 points 6 days ago (5 children)

Violet

Huh. I must have missed this book in A Series of Unfortunate Events.

[–] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago

How unfortunate

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[–] lastlybutfirstly@lemmy.world 18 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Why call Imperial Units the American system? It's the British Empire's fault. And the UK still uses it. Like so much they say weird ass shit like "I weigh 12 stones."

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 5 days ago

Doesnt the UK use a mix of both? Same as Canada?

[–] zerofk@lemmy.zip 10 points 5 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

US Customary Units and Imperial Units are not 100% the same, so calling the former the American system makes sense.

[–] tazeycrazy@feddit.uk 7 points 5 days ago

The UK is metrifing. But it takes time to make these shifts. Most hospitals will ask for weight in kg but usually have a calculator available. Charts and information leaflets have kg. Lift weight limits are in kg (usually then represend by people) Baby's weight is given in grams but usually the next question is what's that in old money. So the systems are all in kg but mentally we are in stones.

[–] heh@lemmy.world 19 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

My favourite part of the metric system is that with it’s water weight being 1-1 with volume; measuring liquids is super easy with a scale.

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Liquids as in water specifically and not other liquids.

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[–] W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 5 days ago
[–] brown567@sh.itjust.works 23 points 5 days ago (6 children)

Found out recently that a fluid ounce of water doesn't weigh an ounce, and that makes me mad

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 21 points 5 days ago

Wild Thing by Josh Bazell, in case anyone was wondering what book that is.

[–] huquad@lemmy.ml 30 points 6 days ago (1 children)

True except for calorie. Metric typically uses Joules, which is good because it's just the product of force (N) and distance units (m), instead of requiring a conversion factor.

[–] SwingingTheLamp@piefed.zip 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

If by "metric system," you mean SI. But then, SI uses m^3^ for volume, not litres. The author didn't specify which metric system, so this could be valid.

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[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 5 days ago (2 children)

When I learned the consistency (synergy?) between metric measures, I thought that was so amazing.

In the olden days sciencey types and engineers kept fact books listing such relations. They had a specific name that escapes me.

Before handheld calculators, they also kept books of pre-calculated mathematical operations, so they were used to having numbers books around.

[–] kestrel7_7@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

“Better still learn mental math, you won’t always have an answer book in your pocket!” — 1500’s teachers

In the olden days sciencey types and engineers kept fact books listing such relations. They had a specific name that escapes me.

Likely a "CRC": CRC Standard Mathematical Tables, which is probably the same book as the pre-calculated mathematical operations you mentioned. It has a lot of good mathematical stuff in it such as basic formulas, trig functions, log tables, integral and differential functions, and formulas up through around Fourier analysis.

If we were doing that thought exercise where you can take a "go bag" back in time to build science up more quickly, a CRC and a slide rule would probably be in mine. I'd probably throw in a prism and as compact of a microscope that uses a mirror as a light source as I could get away with; both for showing small stuff living in water and for showing what couldn't be manufactured yet (depending on when I went back). I wouldn't waste space in the bag for anything dealing with the imperial system.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago

a gallon of water boils in 10 minutes on a whirlpool electric range in turbo mode

[–] BitUnWise@programming.dev 13 points 5 days ago (2 children)

One mole of hydrogen-1 isn't 1 gram because of the binding energy of protons and neutrons. One mole of hydrogen-1 is about 1.008g

[–] sumsinj@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You know that water being exactly 1kg and 1l is specific to one pressure and temperature combination?

[–] BitUnWise@programming.dev 7 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Mole is a number of particles, not a volume. A mole of hydrogen-1 will always have the same mass regardless of temperature or pressure

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[–] gastroglizzy@piefed.social 13 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (10 children)

Metric is great for scientists in a lab with equipment to measure things.

Imperial was created during a time when peasants in the middle of nowhere needed to measure something "close enough" to trade with others, even without tools or measuring equipment, which was only owned by scribes and other members of the nobility.

This is why all imperial length measurements relate to parts of the body and why all volume and weight measurements relate to containers that were commonly used to store the thing you're measuring (a bushel of grain, for example).

Also, a foot can be divided equally into 2, 3, 4, or 6 equally-sized pieces without resorting to estimation or irrational numbers; a meter cannot.

The US agreed to switch to the metric system centuries ago, but the ship carrying the official units sank on the way over.

[–] lauha@lemmy.world 75 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (30 children)

Metric is great for scientists in a lab with equipment to measure things.

Metric is just as great for everyday life as imperial units.

Also, a foot can be divided equally into 2, 3, 4, or 6 equally-sized pieces without resorting to estimation or irrational numbers; a meter cannot.

While I agree in principle, I also enjoy the chaos that imperial system causes when you try adding up 1 1/8 inches + 5 27/32 inches + 7 3/16 inches instead of just using decimal numbers.

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[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 48 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Metric is just as great for everyday life as imperial units.

This is what the metricians say to feel better about themselves, but they never mean it.

"Oh yes, I'll have a 236.588 milliliters of tea, thank you for offering"

"The kids are out playing in the back 0.914 meters"

"Doctor, I think I broke my left 30.48 centimeters"

Do you see how silly you would sound if you didn't use imperial?

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 28 points 6 days ago

I was co confused until I got the joke lol

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[–] im_fine_sandy@nord.pub 28 points 6 days ago

Metric allows you to convert between length volume and mass in your head. Someone smarter than me could probably take a reasonable estimate of how long a kettle will take to boil just by knowing it's wattage and estimating its volume.

You're right that "pounds" may have e been a practical measurement back when people didn't have calibrated and everyone's hand weighed a pound. However, that advantage ceased once everyone standardised those measurements.

A metre is equally divisible by 50, 25, 20, 10, 5, and 2. There arr numerous advantages to a base 10 system.

[–] Krudler@lemmy.world 25 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (5 children)

The last bit of rationalizing is hilarious. It's like you don't even understand numbers or math, well what am I saying, you're an American

We can figure out what 70% of a meter is.

Good luck with your peasant system

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[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 21 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (9 children)

"Decimalized currency is great for all those labcoats, but for us regular ol' normal folk, it's much easier to use real, easily divisible livres, which can be divided into 20 sous and subsequently into 12 deniers."

"In fact, imperial is so great because duodecimal invites so much divisibility! What's that? You're saying it goes 12 –> 3 –> 1760 for length, 16 –> 2000 for units of mass, that units of volume are a bastardized base-2 system where there isn't even a consistent multiple between units, and that pounds and short tons aren't cleanly divisible by 3? And that not a single unit of volume is divisible by 3 unless you bring it down to the level of teaspoons?"

"'Why not just switch to a fully duodecimal system if divisibility is so important to you', you ask? Well fuck you, a foot is about as long specifically as my forearm, and there's no way my poor, emaciated monkey brain would ever have found something similar to latch onto with SI units. Those people living in most of the rest of the world probably just carry meter sticks around up their asses. 'How many square inches is a 30 x 30-foot room?', you ask? Well fuck you again."

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[–] Morotsgubbe@sopuli.xyz 19 points 6 days ago (1 children)

What do you mean you can not divide a meter without estimations or irrational numbers? Do you mean fractions or decimal? 1m/3=3.33… dm ( repeating, which means it is a rational fraction)

[–] livingheart@sh.itjust.works 17 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Anyone who thinks you can divide one number by another and get an irrational number... doesn't know what irrational means.

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[–] AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@piefed.social 16 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Every country used a system based off body parts or similarly easy-to-measure parts. When the metric system was invented, most of them switched because it was the logic thing to do. Some just decided that the dumb system was better who knows why.

Spain adopted the metric system in 1852 and by the time, they weren't the most advanced country.

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 15 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Spain adopted the metric system in 1852 and by the time, they weren't the most advanced country

perhaps when the u.s. finally reaches the level of 1852 spain, americans will switch too.

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[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Also, US Customary units share many of the same terms as Imperial, but the actual quantities differ.

[–] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 16 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Even more fun is that US customary units are explicitly defined by their metric equivalents. So the US is using metric whether they like it or not, they just slap pointless conversion factors on top.

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