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Ick! It just feels crappy and bad and cheap. Plastic things make creaky noises and fall apart, and they feel bad to interact with. Idk if it's a sensory thing or I'm just an asshole, but I fully believe that under FALGSC I would never have to touch this shit.

They don't make glass and metal TV remotes or game controllers. I can never replace my Kindle Oasis because every other e-reader is made of the cheapest, worst plastic.

How can I just ...not have to touch plastic anymore?

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[–] Snort_Owl@hexbear.net 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I touched grass once but the grass was also plastic.

Anyway plastic packaging makes me feel gross and there's always so much of it, polystyrene is an affront to god and also how am I supposed to dispose of it?

Idk if it's a sensory thing

It 100% sounds like a sensory thing.

[–] LeylaLove@hexbear.net 6 points 1 day ago

We don't control our sensory problems. Like I start freaking the fuck out of if I'm anywhere near moving packing syrofoam. The noises are violence to my ears, and I can't stand touching it

[–] Cysioland@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 day ago

I do not like plastic containers or plastic tape or single use plastics.

[–] Ekranoplane@hexbear.net 7 points 1 day ago

Or you could get a weird mineral paint that dries into a silica rock but that texture sounds more nightmarish than plastic lol https://www.beeckmineralpaints.com/shop/beeckosil-white-fine

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

get one of those metal 3d printers and make housings for every little gadget. or wood might be cheaper. anything that's a clamshell kinda deal you can take apart can be any material you want.

it would be very funny to glue up one of those "hide a gun in the book" spy things for an e-reader.

[–] Sam@hexbear.net 8 points 1 day ago

Those home SLA printers honestly should be illegal. There is a reason these things are run in clean rooms and enclosures, I wince every time I see some youtuber standing over the exposed block of graphite powder while wearing a basic dust mask or sometimes nothing at all. In the same way one might wince seeing a picture of a toddler standing next to the demon core.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

I wish I could take in glass bottles and jars to be refilled directly, rather than relying on recylcing. I always think about how wasteful it is that I have to buy a gallon jug every time I want a jug of juice, instead of just reusing the same huge glass jug for ten years.

[–] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 6 points 1 day ago

USSR actually did this with standartized glass bottles, that you could gather and return for their price, then they were washed and reused.

[–] EmmaGoldman@hexbear.net 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

YES! This is what I'm talking about. They should wash and sterilize it and then refill it. You could probably even do this at the local level.

[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

These are the most widely used here

500mL crown cork bottle

But I also really like these

500mL flip-top bottle

They are refilled ~50 times before being recycled.

It's cheaper to go to the supermarket and buy some beers than to buy empty bottles, at least until you buy them by the pallet.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

That was how it was done before plastic took over. It's just more labor intensive and has more points of failure and puts more of a burden on customers to remember not to lose or break their glasses, so plastic out-competed it.

I still like to buy glass just because it's actually recyclable. Plastic mostly gets thrown away by "recycling" centers.

[–] EmmaGoldman@hexbear.net 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I imagine that one day in the not too distant future, we'll be digging up landfills for plastic to pyrolyze because that will be easier than extracting oil.

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 6 points 1 day ago

i forget the dork name for it but there's a sort of haha jk unless gestalt material that you can dig out of landfills that have been there a while.

[–] isame@hexbear.net 7 points 1 day ago

The children yearn for the garbage mines.

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

also to not break the glass in transit. you can fit more plastic bottles of stuff on a truck because of the weight too. and while it would solve OP's problem, if you sufficiently pad out your pallet of glass bottles you're going to be using a fuckload of plastic anyway

[–] TrashGoblin@hexbear.net 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You could pad it out with paper/cardboard/puffed cellulose.

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago

everything's a tradeoff. i haven't seen numbers on GDR's special glass, it's possible you don't even need any with that stuff.

[–] FALGSConaut@hexbear.net 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I used to be able to do that with beers but I think COVID wiped out growlers as an option

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 9 points 1 day ago

Local place still has growlers, I bring em leftover pizza from my work ans they fill me up for free. It rocks

[–] Enjoyer_of_Games@hexbear.net 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Super_Lumalo@hexbear.net 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Enjoyer_of_Games@hexbear.net 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No, keyboard and mouse are vastly superior obviously.

[–] Ekranoplane@hexbear.net 5 points 1 day ago

I see lots of natural wood and fabric kindle covers on etsy. You could even get it embroidered: https://www.etsy.com/listing/4532446507/personalized-japanese-style-embroidered

[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Celluloid feels pretty nice though.

[–] EmmaGoldman@hexbear.net 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Idk if I've ever actually touched celluloid, but I've used a bakelite rotary phone and that definitely felt nice in a way.

[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 6 points 1 day ago

I thought about bakelite first too.

[–] skipper@hexbear.net 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Sometimes I think about how when I die, my oily bits might slowly descend into the earth and crushed over millions of years and someone will pump me out and turn me into plastic. I know this isn't actually how it works, but I'm still worried about it.

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[–] Runcible@hexbear.net 14 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I fully believe that under FALGSC I would never have to touch this shit.

Why?

[–] EmmaGoldman@hexbear.net 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Why would you make permanent stuff out of cheap, fragile, and crappy-to-touch plastic when you could make it out of a nicer material to touch? Metal, glass, wood, stone, etc. There are definitely some plastics that are better than others, too. I had a Pixel 2XL which had a textured composite coating on the back that felt very nice to touch.

I just got shown some glassware that's being packaged in a mycelium-based composite. It's usually paper or bagasse, so it's not like a huge change with regards to eliminating single use plastic, but it had a really nice texture to it. Idk how stable a material it is or if it would break too easily or degrade too quickly to make long-term household items.

[–] Runcible@hexbear.net 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm not going to defend single use, which I consider distinct from plastic as a material, but there are a ton of great use cases for plastic. It's less brittle than glass and wood has complications for many uses due to being porous. The methods of manufacture for different materials have significance; you can injection mold plastic but not wood for example, and I don't think all things should be (or at least should need to be) artisanal.

[–] EmmaGoldman@hexbear.net 12 points 1 day ago

There are definitely places where it's just the best option. Like there are tons of medical applications for plastics I don't think should go away, there's even PEG 3350 which is a very effective laxative.

I guess I'm talking particularly about what car manufacturers call "touch points." I don't actually care that the headlights or the bumpers or the dashboard are plastic, I just don't want to touch plastic on places like the steering wheel, visors, belt buckle, vents, infotainment.

I want a tv remote or a flyswatter that's not plastic. I can already get things like light switches, pill organizers, lotion or shampoo bottles but I want plastic not to be the default.

The DSA Marxist-Leninist Glassblower's Caucus said so

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[–] Letztertod@hexbear.net 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Tip for tv remote and game controllers, get a rubber grip if there are any available.

[–] EmmaGoldman@hexbear.net 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)
[–] gayspacemarxist@hexbear.net 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Rubber comes from a tree doesn't it?

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[–] frisbird@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Wait, is rubber that is made from tree sap still technically a plastic?

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

synthetic plastics are called plastics because they're like other stuff that we used to call plastic (adjective).

[–] GoodBleanis@hexbear.net 11 points 1 day ago

Rubber is still a plastic, it just has a really low glass transition temperature so it stays soft. Even if it comes from sap.

[–] EmmaGoldman@hexbear.net 10 points 1 day ago

It's a natural plastic, cis-1,4-polyisoprene! It's made of a volatile called isoprene that tons of plants and animals make, including humans. We breathe it out.

Trans-1,4-polyisoprene is a harder natural plastic called gutta-percha and dentists use it to refill root canals because it has really good biocompatibility.

[–] Letztertod@hexbear.net 6 points 1 day ago

Really? Because I never got the plastic feel from rubber grip.

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[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sometimes there is a small error in the production process and the rubber coating decomposes into sticky goop after a few years.

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[–] zongor@hexbear.net 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

A extremely impractical solution would be to take plastic X thing and submerge it in sand-oil then cast it in aluminum using the lost wax method

Lost PLA works for aluminum, too, which opens up 3D printing as an option for creating the cast molds.

Idea for an extremely niche business

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 7 points 1 day ago

Im taking a break from working on a plasric model kit.

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