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This is the most aggravating outcome. I am honestly extremely suspicious that this may just be his lawyers trying to get him the best feasible outcome in a context where the DoJ is not really following the rules.
They’re going for single digit prison time and trying to get the state case tossed under double jeopardy
He'd better get a hell of a plea deal bargain out of this.
I'm fucking pissed that he's not even giving jury nullification a chance.
No plea deal was made. The prosecution intends to seek the maximum penalty, life in prison.
This was done to avoid being charged for 2nd degree murder and various weapons related charges.
Single digit? How would that conceivably occur?
I really wanted him to be found not guilty.
We all know he's not guilty. The courts are only tangentially related to actual justice.
Count 1: Stalking
Count 2: Stalking
Pleading guilty in federal stalking case.
Pleading not guilty to state charges for 2nd degree murder.
Government recommendation of 20-30 years in prison. Charges require a more than 0 years in prison with a possible maximum sentence of life in prison. Sentencing to happen in December.
Lawyers filed to dismiss state charges under New York’s double jeopardy laws.
The government has submitted a letter to the judge recommending a sentence of 25 to 30 years.
Whatever factual admissions he made in the federal plea can usually be admitted as evidence in the state case. That could really blow up a case, but I assume that Mr. Mangione's excellent legal team has already figured out what consequences there are and briefed him on that.
The trade-off, I think, is now he can now seek a dismissal in the state case due to double Jeopardy rules
A more complete transcript..
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"Unlike my previous interactions with insurers, I received an immediate response within an hour. " is quite a gem
This bums me out. I had hoped he would get a fair trial and be found not guilty. I do understand trying to get the best deal if he doesn't believe that would happen, though.
If the judge actually gives him 25 years and they can get state charges dismissed, that's an okay deal, but there's no guarantee of that. It wouldn't surprise me if the prosecutors request life, his attorneys ask for 25 years, and the judge decides on 40.
What is shocking to me about this situation is if they had gone to trial, even with possible overwhelming evidence, I think some jurors would have been likely to nullify the law and just say he was not guilty of all charges.
I smell an illegally coerced confession..
With how they've been treating hlm like he's Dahmer and Manson combined in front of the cameras, I shudder to think what they might have done to him when NOT observed by the public.
Even the most hale would struggle to hold firm against over a year and a half of torture and he had a fucked up back to begin with..
This is the least shocking outcome ever. Its worrying that this is so shocking to people here. Where the fuck are you people getting your news?