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Mirror Mirror on the Wall (static.existentialcomics.com)
submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by PieMePlenty@lemmy.world to c/comicstrips@lemmy.world
 

Source: Existential Comics #667

Transcription:

Evil Queen: Mirror mirror, on the wall, who is the fairest of them all?
Mirror: Snow White.

Evil Queen: Hmmm ...

Evil Queen: Mirror mirror on the wall, does that mean there is an objective standard of beauty?
Mirror: Uhh ... yeah sure ...

Evil Queen: So how did you determine your answer? What is the objective standard that you used to determine this?
Mirror: Oh you know, she is just the woman most people would think is most beautiful.
Evil Queen: What? But that's not objective!

Evil Queen: If that were true I don't even have to kill Snow White, I just have to kill enough people who have the hots for her to tip the scales for me.

Mirror: Okay fine, then it is her pale skin.
Evil Queen: That's it, pale skin?
Mirror: Yeah paler the skin, the more beautiful the girl.

Evil Queen: You know ... that almost sounds a little racist, mirror on the wall.

Mirror: And another thing, there are too many immigrants ...

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[–] frog@feddit.uk 61 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I wanted to post another Snow White comic here but I can't find it.

It goes like this:

Queen: Who is the fairest one of all?

Mirror: Snow White

Queen: Isn't she like 14?!

Next panel shows the Mirror behind bars.

[–] SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org 21 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I think it was Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal...?

[–] Crewman@sopuli.xyz 50 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] BillyClark@piefed.social 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

How old is the magic mirror, though?

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It looks like a 3 year old mirror but it actually contains a soul many thousands of years old. Who's the pedo now huh?

[–] joyjoy@piefed.social 2 points 1 month ago

Checkmate, weeb.

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[–] frog@feddit.uk 1 points 1 month ago

Thank you. I would be thinking about this for a while if it wasn't for your reply. Lol.

[–] Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 1 month ago (3 children)

What is easier, killing one little girl, or killing thousands who have the hots for her?

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The little girl is royalty. The thousands are peasants. Different scales.

You kill one member of royalty and everyone thinks you’re a monster.

Kill several thousand peasants and no bats an eye.

[–] NONE_dc@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

She's a queen, she can easily order both things.

[–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Except she did order someone to kill Snow White and it didn't work. Hence the whole hag-and-apple routine.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

You wouldn't expect it, but apparently the latter.

[–] QueenHawlSera@piefed.social 14 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Snow White is like 12, why are we listening to a pedophile mirror?

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

It's going to sound so wrong, but back when Snow White was first written, it was during the time when child marriage was acceptable and there is no middle stage known as teenagerhood (it's a very recent concept in human history). As soon as you could work, you would be considered an adult even if you are 12. If anyone has read the book or seen the movie The Master and Commander (which is set during the Napoleonic Wars, same time as when Snow White was published), there are naval cadets who are like 12 and 15 years old, and the much older ablehands refer to them as "sir". That is a historically accurate depiction.

I'm not making excuse by the way, but it explains a lot as to why older stories have very weird portrayal of underage characters because it reflected the social norms at the time. Many fairy tales in their original forms are very brutal and no-holds barred because people back then grow up way too fast as expected by society. And the gruesome reality of living, without the modernity we take for granted today, had to be faced by most folks in the past. Child mortality rate was high after all.

[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Beauty and the Beast was written to introduce young brides to the idea that marrying a gross, hairy, large creature might not be all that bad, and that you might even find things to like about your monster husband and fall in love with him.

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[–] creamfresh@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

(it’s a very recent concept in human history)

Doesn't keep modern adults from touching Julias bronze tits in Verona.

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[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Doesn’t fair mean light skinned?

[–] Cenzorrll@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

Yeah, the Queen asked who is pale as fuck, mirror responds with . The Queen then decides that means is most beautiful and moves the goal post. I'd probably start being a snarky ass mirror by panel 4 as well.

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[–] wieson@feddit.org 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No, her skin hungers for justice

[–] FishFace@piefed.social 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The earlier meaning of fair is beautiful. Before that there was already a meaning of "suitable". The "light" meaning grew out of the "beautiful" due to prevailing beauty standards.

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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Not entirely true it was only the white skin, she also had black hair and very red lips.
I've always seen it as her uniqueness that was considered attractive, not particularly her skin.

Black hair is not a typical trait of people who have very white skin, I guess you could have a similar story about a dark skinned woman with fair hair.
But that would not be an image the Brothers Grimm readers would as easily imagine in their heads, and would be more likely for a story written somewhere where that would be more likely and identifiable.

Aren't there African stories that have beauty standards about being as black as a black stone?

[–] teslekova@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago

So the mirror likes goth chicks.

[–] Flower@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago

Or snow white was the only one with a face not full of blemishes from a plague or two in the environment.

[–] Cenzorrll@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The Queen is also not asking the mirror who is the most beautiful, she is asking who is the palest mf around. It's the Queen's problem that she conflates that with beauty.

In the 1812 German version (and German versions since then), the queen asks who is "schΓΆnste" in the land. That's definitely pretty, beautiful, or attractive, rather than pale, white, or brilliant.

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[–] phx@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'd actually love to hear a twist on the story where the mirror is the baddie. Maybe it's an imprisoned demon who convinces the Queen that Snow will brutally overthrow her. Having little sides that show it also is a racist to emphasize that it's evil and biased would be fun

[–] BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I just have to kill enough people who have hots for her

Well that's one way of doing it.

[–] owl@infosec.pub 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Seeing a woman kill a bunch of people may however be a turn off for some of the survivers.

[–] thevoidzero@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Not if they have hots for a 14yr old

[–] BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

That's why competent ruler runs a well oiled propaganda machine along with atrocities.

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 4 points 1 month ago

Modern day villians are insufferable.

[–] brsrklf@jlai.lu 4 points 1 month ago

We need measurable quantities to be able to compare them. How many ships have their face launched?

George Carlin: "question everything."

~(぀ˆ0Λ†)γ€ο½‘β˜†

[–] Sxan@piefed.zip 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If that were true I don't even have to kill Snow White. I just have to kill enough people who have the hots for her to tip the scales for me.

"And if you did that, my answer would change."

She'd have to be more selective: she'd have to kill all of ΓΎe people who prefer Snow White to her, or else she might end up with yet someone else everyone who's left prefers over her. As a (potential) bonus, she might have to kill fewer people. However, if I've learned anyΓΎing from Condorcet voting, even killing everyone who prefers Snow White to her might not result in her becoming "Fairest in the Land". WiΓΎout Snow White, people's preferences might shift to Glenda the Good Witch, and ΓΎen she has to watch out lest Glenda set her elite assassin Dorothy d'Kansas on her.

It's so fraught being a fairy-tale villain.

[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago (4 children)

In the story, I think the Witch was the reigning champion until Snow White, so I think the chances she has to regain her throne are pretty good; but the attraction to Snow White could also signal a cultural shift (to children?) which would be much harder to reverse.

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