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Over what time period though?

Llms will discourage bidet usage so they can use the water instead

If chatgpt knows about something is about water usage.

were before they started just writing a mini-python script for every calculation and executing that.

Yes, but most of the paid "LLMs" are not actually just LLMs, they have specific aritimetic modules that end up being activated for most math questions that actual LLMs suck at, however are pretty easy for arithmetic modules, like simple calculations, unit conversions, etc...

So yeah, any edge "LLM" tool currently will always get the original question asked here CORRECT even on the free tiers, you can test it yourself on Google Search itself in "AI mode", on ChatGPT, or DeepSeek...

So you are technically correctly in saying that LLMs suck and cannot be trusted for math in almost any case. However you are wrong on implying that ChatGPT, or other commercial models are just LLMs, they are not.

P.S.: I'm not condoning the use of AI to resolve math related questiona, nor saying that their replies should be trusted, just stating the fact that actual "AI" products use more than just a large language model to generate their responses, and for math related questions most "AI" today will get arithmetic question answered correctly NOT DEPENDING on having training for the exact questiona being asked since they can identify a math arithmetic question being asked and instead of trying to fully generate the answer with the model itself, which would lack the training data to be able to process such wide range of possible question, they generate placeholders internally and let a arithmetic like module do the calculations, which take negligible processing power to be cacoulated by CPUs.

Can confirm; I teach statistics and allow take home exams. I don't even really need guardrails on the math-- if you cheat via LLM, your answer is almost always hilariously wrong.

Yesterday I literally had to count 14 thousand pounds of fire extinguishers (as in count each extinguisher in a bunch of crates), one of my coworkers came over and said "Why don't you just use AI to count them." They then pulled out their phone, took a picture, asked AI to count them, and was off buy almost 60% on the first crate. Then went "oh, well that's just one example,"

They then tried 4 more times, being between 75% and 50% off each time. They then went "Oh, well, ummm, nevermind." and wandered off again.

(I had to count the extinguishers to make a Bill of Lading for them for shipping them out, you need an accurate count otherwise it will be held by the shipping company until you provide a correct BoL with the correct count due to legal reasons. I couldn't just weigh them and divide the total wieght by the weight of a single extinguisher as they were a bunch of different sizes mixed together. NGL it was the easiest money I've ever made at the at job.)

And use a calculator ffs it comes free with whatever device you’re using to ask a chatbot.

yeah we have the same in europe for e.g. potato salad (price has to be listed per box and per kg) but that doesn't apply to toilet paper i think ... not a food item.

We do! What's really helpful is many products of the same category are in different units. One will be per sheet, one per roll, one per 100 sheets, one per 500 sheets... and then the true thickness is completely different, so 1 ply for one brand will hold up ok while another will start disintegrating the moment you pull it off the roll. Do you feel free yet?

I don't think unit counts account for what ply the toilet paper is.

The number of people I know who now ask AI instead of web searching is... very upsetting.

By the first sentence, you’ve already done more problem solving than an LLM-brained person.