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“I’m saying it right now,” Homan said. “There’s still going to be more bloodshed unless they shut their mouth and let ICE enforce the laws that they enacted.”

DHS has acknowledged that neither of the men who have been shot in recent weeks was the target of the ICE operations that led to their deaths.

A witness reported that Guerrero shouted, “I tried to stop” after being shot by an agent while his vehicle moved forward slowly.

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[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 160 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The murders will continue until compliance improves.

[–] Goodeye8@piefed.social 51 points 1 month ago (5 children)

You want to hold us accountable? We're going to murder even harder.

Now that's what I call a bold strategy.

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[–] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 87 points 1 month ago (2 children)

"let ICE enforce the laws that they enacted"

I don't recall anyone enacting a law that said "round up brown people in concentration camps and kill protesters"

[–] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 42 points 1 month ago (10 children)

Also pretty sure it's not ICE's job to enact laws.

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[–] Ferrous@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 month ago (8 children)

Joe Biden spent a record amount on ICE camps while the threat of fascism was obviously clear.

Obama not only discovered Homan, but awarded him with a medal when Homan devised a plan to separate migrant children from their parents at detention centers.

Every single dem senator voted to confirm Marco Rubio, who has obviously been one of the biggest champions of "immigration enforcement.

They're not entirely wrong when they say the Democrats gave them a mandate.

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[–] watson387@sopuli.xyz 70 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Fuck Tom Homan. War on US citizens.

[–] chahn.chris@piefed.social 63 points 1 month ago

Here’s the neat part, the murders will continue either way.

Why should anybody shut up?

[–] lambisio@feddit.cl 57 points 1 month ago (29 children)

Here in Chile, when one President declared war on their people, we trashed the country until his governance was all but surrendered, and we even got the chance of making a new Constitution out of it (the idiots blew it, but that's for Season 2 of the series). He got lucky to make it out of the Presidential building in one piece (we historically don't like it when armed conflict touches the place).

What are the so-called American citizens doing?

[–] moustachio@lemmy.world 38 points 1 month ago (9 children)

America definitely needs to get a sense of urgency in change, but USA is a much larger, and spread out country than Chile; and it also has the largest & most well funded intelligence agencies helping the oligarchs maintain power.

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[–] SailorFuzz@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago (19 children)

The difference is, our police are armed more heavily than some nations military. And our military is more heavily armed than nearly every other nation combined..... And that's forgetting that we've allowed technocrats to install nationwide government surveillance, tracking and recording. Both online and in public places.

It's not so easy as just "revolt".

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[–] huey_m@piefed.social 18 points 1 month ago (10 children)

Honestly? The average and median American still has I think the highest disposable income in the world even after accounting for cost of living short of places like Luxembourg. While they're complaining, rightly, about their lot being worse compared to years past, most of them aren't feeling a sort of financial squeeze that's usually needed for that kind of revolutionary action yet.

The US has made a sort of deal with devil that's still mostly paying off for the average citizen. Until the middle class specifically really feel the squeeze, and not just compared to themselves historically, I don't see any revolutionary action happening.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Basically people have to start starving first.

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This is a threat directed at the American people. Allow ICE to torture their non white neighbors or there will be more Alex Pretti murders.

[–] minorkeys@sh.itjust.works 50 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Is this not a crime? Threatening to murder political opposition?

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 31 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

He says it with enough ambiguity to claim later that what he meant was: allow ICE to do our job or the nasty immigrants and anti-fascists will cause bloodshed. But of course it's his people causing the bloodshed, not the people they're attacking.

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[–] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 23 points 1 month ago

It doesn't really matter if its a crime or not. No one is enforcing it.

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 48 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

"Shut up about the Nazi executions and let them execute your neighbors or we'll target you sooner rather than later"

If I said the same line about bloodshed but targeting Nazis" I'd get a knock on the door

[–] ClownStatue@piefed.social 45 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Man I hope that monster winds up in Leavenworth, or stood up in front of a firing squad, once adults take charge of things.

[–] BigMacHole@thelemmy.club 25 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Holding people ACCOUNTABLE for Murdering Americans would be POLITICAL therefore we must FORGIVE and FORGET and Hope it doesn't Happen AS BAD next Time!

-LITERALLY The Democrats!

[–] starelfsc2@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It was so disgusting seeing the """"left leaning"""" news networks sit there giving softball interviews to trump, because otherwise they'd seem biased! You can't just sit there talking about the crimes the presidential candidate is committing, that's too partisan...???????

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[–] Skyline969@piefed.ca 44 points 1 month ago (19 children)

Hey Americans, your precious second amendment? It’s for shit like this.

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[–] WesternInfidels@feddit.online 33 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Notice the way this balances murders, on the one hand, against talking about the murders, on the other hand. As if those were comparable, as if those were two sides of the same coin.

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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago (4 children)

This man is a traitor to our nation.

If justice is to be restored he must be tried and executed or, at minimum, imprisoned for life.

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[–] HCSOThrowaway@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago

Turns out the bloodshed also continues if we say/do nothing about it too, so we may as well say/do something about it anyway.

[–] NutWrench@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 month ago

“I’m saying it right now,” Homan said. “There’s still going to be more bloodshed unless they shut their mouth and let ICE enforce the laws that they enacted.”

No. And. You can't make me.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago

That is a public confession.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

Ice is state sponsored domestic terrorism.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Weird, that sounds like something a Nazi would say

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[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 17 points 1 month ago

This stubbed toe in a suit is threatening to kill people.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

At this point ICE is a magnet for serial killers. Theres no redemption for an instution that far gone.

[–] Blibly@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Very cool. When do we get to the public trials and punishments for these nazis? Are we really just gonna let these idiots run this government until 2028?

We aren't publicly talking about deposing and jailing these people and that's just unacceptable

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[–] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Openly admitting to being killers, not allowing free speech, telling to "shut their mouth", and expecting to be someone's leaders.

[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

Openly admitting to being SERIAL killers

[–] wasabi_noir@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Homan looks like a cancer riddled scrotum.

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[–] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 month ago

Authoritarianism is an admission of abject weakness.

White supremacists are the weakest and most brittle snowflakes.

A healthy, broadly educated population, which feels safe and secure, is incompatible with, and toxic to, conservative and authoritarian ideologies.

They need you to be sick, stupid, and scared.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ice isn't enforcing any laws. They are randomly grabbing people and in most cases they are let either right away or after a bit of discovery and such. They so badly don't want due process because they are not actually going after anyone legally. Its why people have been deported and returned. They just want carte blanche to be judge jury and executioners.

[–] MasterBlaster@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Yes. Trump wants his own "brown shirts" who will then become the SS division.

(tangentially I am ticked off they kept stealing Tutonic and Norse symbols (and one very prominent Indian one) and turned them into "symbols of hate". The SS uses Suwilo ( it looks like an angular "s" or "stylized lightning bolt".)

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[–] SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Welcome to the new reality. The United States is a fascist country. It will be a fascist country for the foreseeable future. Face it and prepare.

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[–] Stern@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

"the beatings will continue until moral improves" type shit

[–] blitzen@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 month ago

Anyone spouting this kind of rhetoric deserves a Charlie Kirk type ending.

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