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[-] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 154 points 6 months ago

Haha, this proves that god is not a source of morality, and instead is a dictator. I've killed everybody I want to kill, which is nobody, even when god isn't there to stop me.

[-] superduperenigma@lemmy.world 51 points 6 months ago

God: Here's some plagues, floods, and famine. Now worship me.

Satan: Anyone interested in some sex, drugs, and rock and roll?

[-] Oderus@lemmy.world 26 points 6 months ago

Satan is also pro masturbation. He's got my vote.

[-] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

Me too. Since I have a free hand to vote with.

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[-] SlopppyEngineer@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 6 months ago

Satan: we don't torture people with thorns and nails here. That's the other guy's department. Same for locusts, killing firstborn, you get the idea.

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[-] Lemminary@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

Good Guy Satan wants to get educated and get an abortion that could save your life.

[-] danc4498@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

I’ve killed everybody I’ve wanted to and had the capability of killing. Which is nobody.

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[-] db2@lemmy.world 135 points 6 months ago

If you're only a good person under threat, then you're not a good person.

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[-] charonn0@startrek.website 86 points 6 months ago

The question I get asked by religious people all the time is, without God, what’s to stop me from raping all I want?

And my answer is: I do rape all I want. And the amount I want is zero. And I do murder all I want, and the amount I want is zero.

The fact that these people think that if they didn’t have this person watching over them that they would go on killing, raping rampages is the most self-damning thing I can imagine.

I don't want to do that. Right now, without any god, I don't want to jump across this table and strangle you. I have no desire to strangle you. I have no desire to flip you over and rape you.

-Penn Jillette

[-] TheDoozer@lemmy.world 25 points 6 months ago

Not just that, but I've yet to come across anybody who has actually refrained from doing the bad thing they want to do because of some fear of God. They might be afraid of legal consequences, but belief hasn't prevented rape, theft, envy, murder, or anything else among even (especially) the leaders of the religious.

So no, not believing in God doesn't make atheists rapists and murderers, and believing in God doesn't prevent the devout from rape and murder.

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[-] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 64 points 6 months ago

As an atheist and a “liberal,” I don’t kill people because I’m not a bad person.

[-] Deiv@lemmy.ca 32 points 6 months ago

Silly atheist, that's just god protecting me from you 🙏

[-] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 18 points 6 months ago

I might make an exception for you.

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[-] paddirn@lemmy.world 57 points 6 months ago

So what’s stopping atheists from just going on killing sprees then?

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[-] Cowbee@lemm.ee 50 points 6 months ago

Christo-fascists openly revealing that they are genuinely terrible people held together with duct tape and faith in a genocidal God will never cease to be both hilarious and terrifying.

[-] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 46 points 6 months ago

So nothing stops this guy from killing?

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 51 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

No, his fear of imaginary retaliation stops him from murdering. All he's saying is "if I could still get into heaven I'd be killing all of you." Doesn't matter that God is real or not, his imagination is keeping him in check (thankfully.)

This is actually what religion was meant for. Keeping those that believe it and are psychos in check.

As others are saying though, it looks awfully fake lol

[-] Adubya@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

His 40 virgins are waiting for him on the other-side so he has to "play" by the rules even if he doesn't like it.

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 6 points 6 months ago

Those are for Muslims though, if this guy were real he'd hate them too lol

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[-] Stupidmanager@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

nothing stops me from killing either. OH WAIT! pesky morals and the respected value of human life.

[-] Skkorm@lemmy.world 43 points 6 months ago

Matthew 15: 18 "But the things that come out of a person’s mouth come from the heart, and these defile them"

As stated in his own holy book, he's going to hell.

[-] GladiusB@lemmy.world 22 points 6 months ago

Not if he says sorry at the very last second. Those are the rules.

[-] donescobar@lemmy.world 37 points 6 months ago

Saying the quiet part out loud. If you need a god to keep you from doing awful shit, you are a terrible person on a leash but we already know this.

[-] Thcdenton@lemmy.world 30 points 6 months ago
[-] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 6 months ago

The thing is its simply not true. We know what Jesus is like. (🐪🪡💰) And yet most ministries in the 21st century see the right to property as central to Christianity rather than the duty to feed and clothe the destitute.

Behind The Bastards did a recent two parter on How Capitalism Ate Christianity, starting with the ministry of James W. Fifield Jr. that reinterpreted scripture to veer away from charity and mercy and towards the righteousness of capitalism. It was largely helped after WWII by the red scare in which the Soviet Union provided a fine example of the singular alternative.

So Christianity was repurposed into the Christian Nationalist movement that seeks to turn the US into a one-party autocracy with fascist features.

Why would Adonai allow His holy scripture to be subverted to serve plutocrats? In fact it is done all the time, and has been done to advocate monarchy, to endorse slavery, to oppose war, to endorse war against specific belligerents and so on.

Dan McClellan on his YouTube channel notes scripture does not feature univocality, inerrancy or divine authority according to scholarly consensus (which commonly runs contrary to what apologists might suggest). As McClellan notes the people of any era has to negotiate with the scripture to affirm their own morality, whether that's pacifism and charity or standing your ground and massacring degenerates.

But that is also to say the ministries will justify violence when it serves them, whether that's torturing POWs and massacring villages during the Iraq war or forcing conversions at swordpoint as per the crusades and holy inquisition. And yes plenty of Christians when told they need to load for bear and hunt the sinners will do so, especially if they're in precarity and fear for the security of their home, family, job, survival, etc.

[-] storcholus@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago

Just for anyone looking for the behind the bastards episode: it's from 03/22

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[-] spudwart@spudwart.com 23 points 6 months ago

"I'm only a good person because the invisible sky daddy makes me be good."

You're not a good person if someone is holding you back from being a bad person.

[-] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

I agree. But from a civility standpoint, if someone needs a bolt-on substitute for a conscience and do so voluntarily, I'm all for it. Good news is that vehicle stickers and t-shirts like this let people self-label which is really darn handy.

I want science, reason, and logic to prevail but clearly not everyone does okay with that.

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[-] linearchaos@lemmy.world 19 points 6 months ago

For the most part, never try to talk people out of religion. Some people Need skycake and the boogie man to be a reasonable human being.

[-] DudeBro@lemm.ee 17 points 6 months ago

This isn't even a good photoshop, it looks like it was made in snapchat

[-] Rhaedas@kbin.social 16 points 6 months ago

My response is simply that I'm glad they still believe in an overseer that restricts their dangerous behavior. Some of us don't need that to be nice to others.

[-] niktemadur@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Another way to say the sentiment of this shit-kickin' Jayzus knuckle-dragger:
"If I wasn't afraid of punishment, I'd go on a killing rampage."

[-] Snapz@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

"I ~~read~~ ~~was told about in church~~ saw the cover of a book about a zombie a long time ago. I now assume what the book PROBABLY said and I also hear a voice in my head based on those assumptions. I'm VERY afraid of the voice and also it loves me and it did the Holocaust - anyways, that's the only reason I'm not a murderer"

[-] NegativeLookBehind@kbin.social 13 points 6 months ago
[-] SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 6 months ago

Ya’ll are so lucky my lord and savior is with me at all times, holding me back. He doesn’t want to wake the dragon, bro

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[-] dipshit@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

“The threat of the unknown is what keeps me from forming my own opinions of right and wrong based on what is known.”

[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago

"I do the bare minimum to function in society because of the threat of eternal punishment"

Also, looks a little photoshopped to me.

[-] UnculturedSwine@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago

By all means, keep believing in that god and stay tf away from me. I don't want to risk myself being around you if and when you lose your faith.

[-] 21Cabbage@lemmynsfw.com 6 points 6 months ago

Really looks like a photoshop, I've met the type of person but the bumper sticker is a little on the nose and doesn't quite look right.

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