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[–] BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 20 hours ago (5 children)

There's not a thing you can do as an individual that will have near the impact of countering the wealthy gross over usage of resources and industrial pollution. It's a fools errand so don't try to guilt people who don't recycle.

Nothing you can do will move the needle on climate until the billionaire class is exterminated. Their continued existence is an existential threat. By living they kill, kill today and take lives of those still inborn. By existing they forclose the future.

The great filter exists, and it has a name. Musk. Thiel. Gates. Rockefeller. Exterminate them, or they will exterminate all life.

[–] Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca 13 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

Once it became clear that a large portion of our recycled waste was just being sold and off shored to poorer countries, I stopped giving a fuck about recycling and stopped doing it. What I did start doing was doing everything I could to eliminate plastic from my life, or reuse what I did have until it broke.

[–] tmyakal@infosec.pub 9 points 18 hours ago

The old ad slogan was "Reduce, Reuse, Recycle" in that order because that's the best order to try for. If you don't need it, don't get it. If you do need it, try to use it multiple times. If you can't use it again, then try to recycle it. But the absolute best thing you can do is not get the thing initially.

Only a small percent ends up recycled and there's some plastics that it's cost prohibitive to recycle. Aluminum cans is another one I try not to introduce into my life as well. They have better margins for recycling but it's easier than plastic to not include into your purchase.

[–] Bakkoda@lemmy.world 13 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I've worked in manufacturing plants for the last almost 20 years. One packaging line will produce more waste in a day than you can hope to counter.

[–] wallabra@lemmy.eco.br 7 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

And that's just the packaging part!

[–] Bakkoda@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago

I've seen a plant drain an entire towns water tower down to 12 inches. Not feet. Inches. They had to pay to truck in water. And all it was doing was running through a chiller and into the drain. Not even grey water.

[–] LwL@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

800 million people (so just the population of US, CA, and EU) doing small things can absolutely have a larger impact though. Rich bastards do have a vastly larger impact than individual normal people but using that to say "I don't have to do anything, the others are more at fault" is not helping anyone.

[–] Dpek@lemmy.zip 1 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Also there are significantly less rich people

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[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 2 points 19 hours ago

Also, hey Europeans, please buy your grandma a little split unit AC to cool her room. It's not going to destroy life on this planet. But not buying it might kill your grandma.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Now total it up for the event as a whole.

[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 2 points 14 hours ago

Probably right about 0.2⁰ C

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 26 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

So here's the thing: when the next heatwave hits it's not Infatino's kids that will sit in a 40 degree classroom and cry for their moms, your kids will. When the next forest fire razes some village it's not Infatino that will be left homeless, you will. When drought hits they will not cut water to Inantino's home, they will cut your water.

Infantino doesn't care about his carbon footprint because whatever happens he will be fine. It's all of us, poor people, that will suffer the consequences. Not limiting your emissions because "the rich are not doing their part" will only hurt you, not the rich.

[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 8 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

So we should hurt the rich? I could get behind that

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[–] FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Dpek@lemmy.zip 1 points 17 hours ago

The cannister leaked

[–] BigBoyShuanzee@aussie.zone 12 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I use paper straws, I can't get a bag at the supermarket to hold anything but I still have to pay for those bags.

These cunts get to keep wasting the earth. Yes I'm including Taylor Swift, Jeff Bezos, the heads of Microsoft, Adobe, HP and all the rest.

[–] remon@ani.social 7 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (4 children)

You should look up the fascinating technology of "reusable bags". I haven't bought one in years!

[–] BigBoyShuanzee@aussie.zone 4 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (3 children)

I shall relook into those bags I forget every time I go to the shops.

Maybe move on there mate..

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[–] HrabiaVulpes@europe.pub 6 points 21 hours ago

Poor people shouldn't segregate trash, shouldn't collect bottles etc.

Instead cheapest products should be biodegradable, wrapped in something that can't last shit, transported only by ships and trains. It's the companies who profit from selling products that should be held responsible for the product eco footprint.

[–] MidsizedSedan@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Today, work machine gave me suggestions for how the be eco friendly. (Turning off screen after 5 minutes. Sleep mode after 15 minutes)

All I can think of is how much Microsoft CAN invest in eco mode, but chooses money (or the hope of money in AI) instead.

also (More Microsoft hate)

Every time I'm back to work and forced to windows, I get a new problem. This popes up while reading emails

[–] Frenchgeek@lemmy.ml 3 points 23 hours ago

Did it specify "of unactivity" or did they radically reduce your work hours?

[–] some_designer_dude@lemmy.world 63 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

The data shows that we should be recycling the rich into fertilizer.

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[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 77 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Hank Green actually explained something optimistic after the Blue Origin rocket explosion (here on Youtube), that yes, there are big companies and big billionaires being superfluously wasteful.

But there are a lot of us recycling our bottles and cans, and when we collectively do this, it makes more of a difference than rockets going boom, and jetsetting billionaires.

Granted, we need to drastically reduce our ultra-wealthy for a vast myriad of reasons, but we do collectively make a big difference.

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

yeah I really fucking hate how this particular meme format seems to subtly imply we can just stop making an effort. Always downvote whenever I see it.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yeah, we could have a world in which we have ultra rich billionaires individually wasting that of a small nation on the regular and no one doing anything to try to offset it. I 100% get the defeatism, but it really does no one any good.

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[–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's what posts like this miss--- collective action works, be it in collective bargaining, politics, or environmental action. It can be less effective than stronger actors, but it is still very effective. And often is more effective. People also miss that the average output of trash from middle class people is still a bit much.

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[–] huppakee@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You're right, we can't afford to either only recycle all our bottles or only drastically reduce our ultra-wealthy.

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[–] Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Let's add the flights of the teams. Let's ask if that is necessary.

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[–] homes@piefed.world 91 points 1 day ago (10 children)

Yes, he’s a wasteful, elitist asshole, but still keep on recycling. Better yet, stop using plastic bottles altogether, and get a reusable bottle which you can refill. The best ones are thermally insulated, so you can put hot or cold drinks with ice in them, so they stay hot or cool for hours, and have drink spouts on them.

[–] gex@lemmy.world 45 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

Hank Green did a video inspired by a similar meme after the Blue Origin rocket explosion. He acknowledged that plastic recycling isn't great, but encouraged focusing on other materials like aluminium. The explosion released 825 tons of carbon dioxide, which is ~1% of the hourly emissions of the aluminum industry. The current amount of recycled cans in the US saves the equivalent to 15 rocket explosions of carbon every day.

So yeah, get a reusable container, and try using aluminum instead of plastic.

https://youtu.be/pXVmkurTOgM

[–] homes@piefed.world 26 points 1 day ago (2 children)

yeah, and there was a recent expose about how, on top of the fact that most plastic recycling doesn't actually reduce overall pollution all that much, a huge amount of state and municipal recycling programs had been subsumed by some massive scam that just offloaded recycling waste to some 3rd-party program that eventually buried it all in landfills or dumped it somewhere anyway.

the real answer is to stop producing/consuming so much waste (especially petrochemical-based waste) in the first place and to live in more sustainable and less waste-producing systems.

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[–] CanadianCarl@sh.itjust.works 38 points 1 day ago (13 children)

Don't forget about Linus. The quotes on the site are what he said, when he was showing off the jet.

[–] khannie@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (2 children)

For a minute I thought it was Torvalds and was highly confused.

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[–] AbsolutelyClawless@piefed.social 13 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I haven't watched LTT in a long time (basically ever since it was publicly obvious the money got to his head and everything that comes with ego), so when I saw somewhere he bought a jet, I first thought it was April Fools. Then after a short research I realized he's for real. My partner, on the other hand, was convinced I fell for it, and it took me a while to prove him otherwise.

Absolutely wild what Linus managed to convince (some of?) his fanboys. People will suck off filthy rich assholes like it's their job.

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[–] Bababasti@feddit.org 8 points 1 day ago

Sustainability for thee, not for me.

Also, some surprised-thunder-rat-moments here: https://ferw.eu/fifas-climate-strategy-exposed-greenwashing-at-the-heart-of-the-worlds-game/

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