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This is total nothingburger and only appeals to people who prompt extrusions for capitalists. Completely non-productive. Disregard.
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i lost 7 fucking minutes of my life reading this garbage wtf
Its not exciting to see the US AI industry collapsing under the weight of its own hubirs? China's like, ok seems kinda useful let's make it cheap and power the systems with all this extra renewable energy we have sitting around.
No, it isn't exciting to see the entirety of my adult years in the official economy wasted by psychopaths who want nothing but to disemploy and imprison everybody. I have to live here in the US Rust Belt, whether or not Chinese losers figure out a way to lose less with their losing machine. When the non-productive economy implodes under the weight of the climate and WW3 (5 years and running), that's not going to be a win for me.
Chinese losers figure out a way to lose less with their losing machine
you're overcompensating.
buddy, you're describing capitalism and using AI as a scapegoat. AI data centers should not be built in the US, the developers are doing shoddy, harmful, and pollution. the capitalist class is desperate to dismantle whatever labor power we have left because they see the writing on the wall.
I'm not saying anyone should use AI or suppress their distaste for it, but a crisis of overproduction coupled with the other mounting contradictions means we have a brief window where the working class has a fighting chance take control of its own destiny. living inside the crisis is scary, that's the whole point. that's how they control us and keep us down.
capitalism is inherently unstable, this crash was always going to happen. the question is whether we're prepared to sweep the leg after our big wet boy has smacked himself upside the head.
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I am literally a subsistence farmer outside of the nuclear war MAD zone and this is still going to suck for me, what position are you in???
That other user isn't being very nice so I'm not going to tell you not to be ticked off about it. You may not know about our instance, but it has been terminally irony poisoned even before we were on Lemmy. There are a lot of Twitter style attempts to "dunk" on outsiders (happens amongst ourselves too, but that's another story).
Just wanted to give you a heads up that it's not worth ruining your day over, cause I can see both sides of this.
Cheap Chinese AI is really nice for doing some of my own experiments with AI tools. I've dropped a total of 20 USD on DeepSeek and did a bunch of useful work while ripping my bong.
I'm still an engineer so I'm basically playing manager and sending the little guy back to redo their work until its actually quality, but it makes my hobby coding way less labor intensive.
I really lean into using AI as advanced auto complete tho so ymmv. DS Pro is much better at debugging, but I mostly use Flash because its cheaper and way less prone to "helpfully" doing things that I didn't ask for. I do still manually code a lot, you can't copyright LLM outputs as far as I know so these things are useless for open source outside of fuzzing and debugging.
but it makes my hobby coding way less labor intensive.
my concern for myself on the occasion that i do this is that i get worse at coding every time i do it
A friend of mine took the attitude of using it at work where it may be useful at speeding things up, but for personal projects "FUCK NO, I'm not putting a single line of AI code or assets or anything into my stuff".
that's a good call. vibe coding on drugs is a pretty chill futuristic time, but there's no way I'm putting any of the results out there like I'm proud of it. The only things I accomplished were getting high and creating homework for myself to look at later.
Makes sense lol you sound pretty down to earth about it and I think among tech oriented people it's starting to fall into these sorts of places.
I wouldn't rec AI tools to a novice, that's for sure. You can't really build a good intuition for programming if you don't go in there and write the programs yourself. the higher-end models can do a lot, but if you don't understand what the code is doing on your own the result is always going to be slop.
I treat the AI as a pair programming partner that's reeally good at pattern matching, but has zero comprehension skills. I find this makes the tool way more useful since I'm fighting slop and nonsense way less. the hard part is training yourself to break the programing problem down into small auto-complete steps that a medium strength AI can run with. basically my approach is writing a program or patch in my head and prompting the AI to generate the components.
for hobby coding, this is way more work than just writing the code myself. it only pays off when dealing with large projects. its like an industrial power tool, useful in-context, but you don't need a hydraulic power-hammer to do a little carpentry.
Honestly, If the VSCode auto complete with AI was just a little less zealous, I would love it. Other than that, I don't think AI is worth it for coding. Maybe small things that you would have to pour over documentation to make one thing otherwise, but especially a large project, its more hassle than its worth.
you can't copyright LLM outputs as far as I know so these things are useless for open source outside
you can literally just not tell anyone you used deepshit or claim you modified the output substantially and 99.99% of the time nobody would know or nobody could prove it in a court of law.
I would know. Really not worth the effort to keep it hidden.