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[–] gayspacemarxist@hexbear.net 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Cheap Chinese AI is really nice for doing some of my own experiments with AI tools. I've dropped a total of 20 USD on DeepSeek and did a bunch of useful work while ripping my bong.

I'm still an engineer so I'm basically playing manager and sending the little guy back to redo their work until its actually quality, but it makes my hobby coding way less labor intensive.

I really lean into using AI as advanced auto complete tho so ymmv. DS Pro is much better at debugging, but I mostly use Flash because its cheaper and way less prone to "helpfully" doing things that I didn't ask for. I do still manually code a lot, you can't copyright LLM outputs as far as I know so these things are useless for open source outside of fuzzing and debugging.

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 5 points 2 days ago (3 children)

but it makes my hobby coding way less labor intensive.

my concern for myself on the occasion that i do this is that i get worse at coding every time i do it

[–] spectre@hexbear.net 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

A friend of mine took the attitude of using it at work where it may be useful at speeding things up, but for personal projects "FUCK NO, I'm not putting a single line of AI code or assets or anything into my stuff".

[–] gayspacemarxist@hexbear.net 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

that's a good call. vibe coding on drugs is a pretty chill futuristic time, but there's no way I'm putting any of the results out there like I'm proud of it. The only things I accomplished were getting high and creating homework for myself to look at later.

[–] spectre@hexbear.net 3 points 2 days ago

Makes sense lol you sound pretty down to earth about it and I think among tech oriented people it's starting to fall into these sorts of places.

[–] gayspacemarxist@hexbear.net 3 points 2 days ago

I wouldn't rec AI tools to a novice, that's for sure. You can't really build a good intuition for programming if you don't go in there and write the programs yourself. the higher-end models can do a lot, but if you don't understand what the code is doing on your own the result is always going to be slop.

I treat the AI as a pair programming partner that's reeally good at pattern matching, but has zero comprehension skills. I find this makes the tool way more useful since I'm fighting slop and nonsense way less. the hard part is training yourself to break the programing problem down into small auto-complete steps that a medium strength AI can run with. basically my approach is writing a program or patch in my head and prompting the AI to generate the components.

for hobby coding, this is way more work than just writing the code myself. it only pays off when dealing with large projects. its like an industrial power tool, useful in-context, but you don't need a hydraulic power-hammer to do a little carpentry.

[–] KnilAdlez@hexbear.net 3 points 2 days ago

Honestly, If the VSCode auto complete with AI was just a little less zealous, I would love it. Other than that, I don't think AI is worth it for coding. Maybe small things that you would have to pour over documentation to make one thing otherwise, but especially a large project, its more hassle than its worth.

[–] Tabitha@hexbear.net 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

you can't copyright LLM outputs as far as I know so these things are useless for open source outside

you can literally just not tell anyone you used deepshit or claim you modified the output substantially and 99.99% of the time nobody would know or nobody could prove it in a court of law.

[–] gayspacemarxist@hexbear.net 1 points 2 days ago

I would know. Really not worth the effort to keep it hidden.