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Last I check ketchup went on fries and didn't try to lynch poc.

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[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Have yet to see the evidence thing working.

It's usually more like

  1. Conservative gets told something is racist
  2. Conservative asks for evidence
  3. Conservative gets evidence
  4. Conservative denies/belittles evidence
  5. Conservative gets called a racist
[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

sometimes they skip 2 and 3

[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago

Yeah it's not the full flowchart

[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 9 points 1 day ago

Racist to ketchup pipeline gayroller-2000

[–] GnastyGnuts@hexbear.net 28 points 1 day ago (5 children)

An important part of conservative rhetoric is turning the conversation away from the actual subject matter and toward some inane argument by analogy. "Capitalism is when you have two cows," etc.

[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

both of your cows have screwworm

[–] FloridaBoi@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago
[–] quarrk@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago

Yep, conservatives prefer to speak in terms of abstractions. The first step in dealing with them is to ground it in concrete terms. Instead of “immigrants” talk about specific people/situations. Instead of “lazy workers” talk about your own difficulty avoiding burnout when doing overtime for months on end. Etc.

[–] agentant@hexbear.net 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You live in capitalism. You have no cows. You have to sell yourself into wage slavery so you can have milk to survive.

[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

some woke commies tell you milk isn't vegan. you become even more capitalist.

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

milk is vegan if you leave babies in the woods and a she-wolf suckles them instead of eating them

[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 2 points 1 day ago

The few times this has worked brought on regrettable consequences

[–] BeanisBrain@hexbear.net 14 points 1 day ago

Under capitalism, if you are working class, you're one of the cows

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 13 points 1 day ago

It's usually a pretty good indicator that the furthest theyve looked into a matter themselves is finding out about the analogy that they're repeating

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 25 points 2 days ago

Racism is like ketchup, and if you ask for evidence of ketchup it makes you a… ketchupist?

[–] Andrzej3K@hexbear.net 33 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Demanding evidence about ketchup makes you racist? He didn't think this through at all, did he

[–] CupcakeOfSpice@hexbear.net 22 points 2 days ago

No, no. Demanding evidence about ketchup just makes you ketchup.

[–] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

maybe he orders scrambled eggs with a "racist" amount of ketchup.

[–] anotherspinelessdem@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago

How do we determine a racist amount? Do we just start pouring ketchup until someone takes offense or does it have to be exactly 88 mL?

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago

Demanding evidence about ketchup makes you a liberal.

[–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What does this mean? Is it like:

Some guy: "Wow, that guy hurling slurs on national tv was being pretty racist."

This guy: "Source? Evidence?" smuglord

Some guy: friend-visitor-3

This guy: "Heh. Another woke librul owned." smuglord

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 16 points 2 days ago

Don't believe your lyin' eyes.

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Racism-as-condiment theory was a natural progression of country-as-burger theory.

[–] KuroXppi@hexbear.net 8 points 1 day ago

As American as apple pie with ketchup

[–] Rom@hexbear.net 23 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Ok here's evidence of racism for you, it's the richest man in the world doing a Nazi salute a few years ago

[–] Utter_Karate@hexbear.net 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's a lot like ketchup.

[–] anotherspinelessdem@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 day ago

It's best as a sticky red paste?

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 20 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I couldn't remember if Sowell was alive or dead. I figured he had to be dead but I forgot the simple maxium that some ghouls never die. He's alive and 96. I had a super-quickie look at his Wikipedia page. I found something good.

Joe Biden presidential nomination

In 2020, Sowell wrote that if the Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden won the 2020 presidential election, it could signal a point of no return for the United States, a tipping point akin to the fall of the Roman Empire. In an interview in July 2020, he stated, "the Roman Empire overcame many problems in its long history, but eventually it reached a point where it could no longer continue, and much of that was from within, not just the barbarians attacking from outside."

Sowell wrote that if Biden became president, the Democratic Party would have an enormous amount of control over the nation, and if this happened, they could twin with the "radical left" and ideas such as defunding the police could come to fruition.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Sowell

[–] Tiocfaidhcaisarla@hexbear.net 17 points 2 days ago (2 children)

He was right on the money here, you have to admit

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 11 points 2 days ago

Forcefully "The Democrats will defund every police department in America!"

"There are a some problems with that - honey."

Meekly "There are?"

"This isn't the State of the Union. You were practicing that earlier. I'm your wife, Jill and we're in the bedroom and you're wearing your pjs."

"It's not? I was? You are? We are? I am?"

"Yes! And you remembered five things at once! Great! But you also got a little confused. It's double fund not defund."

"Oh, But I am the president - right?"

"Yes. Should I sing the Happy Birthday, Mr. President song?"

"The what?"

"Just get into bed, Joe."

"Yes, dear."

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

For exactly zero of the reasons he stated though. Chuds love to imagine their cowardly lib opponents are some kind of mastermind network of communist billionaires trying to destroy amerikkka from within.

It's very much not that.

Oh I was being 100% sarcastic, Sowell couldn't predict if the sun will rise tomorrow

[–] AntifaSuperWombat@hexbear.net 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This guy's Wikipedia article is quite the trip. He went from being a Marxist in his 20s to becoming a full-blown chud in his 30s because he supposedly found out that minimum wage is bad for sugar-industry workers in Puerto Rico, because it leads to higher unemployment.

He goes further to argue that minimum wages disproportionately affect "members of racial or ethnic minority groups" that have been discriminated against. He asserts, "Before federal minimum-wage laws were instituted in the 1930s, the black unemployment rate was slightly lower than the white unemployment rate in 1930. But then followed the Davis-Bacon Act of 1931, the National Industrial Recovery Act (NIRA) of 1933, and the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) of 1938 – all of which imposed government-mandated minimum wages, either on a particular sector or more broadly... By 1954, black unemployment rates were double those of whites and have continued to be at that level or higher. Those particularly hard hit by the resulting unemployment have been black teenaged males."

Sowell has been a prominent critic of government and civil rights policy approaches on race, and has argued that systemic racism is an untested, questionable hypothesis, writing, "I don't think even the people who use it have any clear idea what they're saying", and compared it to propaganda tactics used by Joseph Goebbels because if it is "repeated long enough and loud enough", people "cave in" to it.

So which one is it? madeline-deadpan

[–] Keld@hexbear.net 19 points 2 days ago (2 children)

This guy's Wikipedia article is quite the trip. He went from being a Marxist in his 20s

The only source for him being a marxist is that he says he used to be a marxist iirc. I think he is genuinely just lying about it.

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 12 points 2 days ago

I highly doubt it. If he was he’d actually have the upmost patience for people to the left of him, but all he does is masturbate over how he knows everything because chuds are automatically correct about everything because chuds are just that awesome.

Fart-sniffing condescension is fine when the so-called “real elites” are doing it.

[–] AntifaSuperWombat@hexbear.net 4 points 2 days ago

He did write about Marxism as a student, that much is true. The question is if he was just doing it out of academic reasons or if he was actually convinced by those ideas

[–] KuroXppi@hexbear.net 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Not American so didn't know who thomas sowell is but his name is one letter away from the founder of the modern tomato sauce Natsoc org in Australia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Sewell_(neo-Nazi)

[–] agentant@hexbear.net 10 points 1 day ago
[–] Pandantic@midwest.social 4 points 1 day ago

one letter away from the founder of the modern tomato sauce Natsoc org in Australia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Sewell_(neo-Nazi)

Badly written simulation theory...

[–] Keld@hexbear.net 17 points 2 days ago

It is kind of amazing that Thomas Sowell isn't ashamed of himself. His greatest accomplishment is having the idea to name his book "Basic Economics" 26 years ago, and it's been downhill since.

[–] kleeon@hexbear.net 7 points 1 day ago

racism is like a burger

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 7 points 2 days ago

But remember, if you are white and do not take a brown person breathing as a “woke” personal affront, you’re woke.

There’s no such thing as racism, but somehow reverse-racism exists and you’re a cuck if you don’t see it.