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[–] Phantaloons@piefed.zip 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

male

female

male jogging on Laguna Beach in 1985

[–] FreeAZ@sopuli.xyz 5 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (2 children)

I honestly don't understand why they don't just label them "masculine" or "feminine", and they can just add "androgynous" if they want a non-binary option. Is there an element of this that is offensive that I'm missing?

[–] Luisp@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 8 minutes ago

How about treants

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 7 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

People who are never not upset are upset when designers don't title body types as masculine or feminine and instead use a single character like "A" or "B".

Like from a design standpoint if you have plans to introduce more body types then lettering them makes a lot of sense but I imagine that's also one of the first things to get cut from a budget because it multiplies the amount of QA that's going to happen.

[–] FreeAZ@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Okay, that makes sense. I just didn't know if it was that way to be sensitive of trans people or something.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

There are insane people that think michelle obama is trans. I think its more the anti-trans people are prone to just make insane assumptions and assertions.

Lots of games have little unfinished bits. Like look at Metal Gear Solid 5: full ass AAA style game and the entire ending of the game is just missing. I think the obvious explanation is somebody intended to have more body types and just never got around to it or it got deprioritized hard by the budgeting folks.

[–] Kaligalis@lemmy.world 9 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

I don't get why they aren't just making a single body with tons of sliders for all proportions and some "man" and "woman" presets which are just values for those sliders. If it was just one body, all the clothing and animations would only need to be done for one body instead of two.
What am I missing?

[–] psycotica0@lemmy.ca 11 points 4 hours ago

Vaguely, because having 2 or 4 models that are static and always look good is actually a lot easier to design and test than a body that can be lots of sizes and shapes. Like, it's more work to make an outfit 4 times than 1 time, but it's also kinda easy work. Whereas making an outfit that can be any size and shape and still looks right and natural and doesn't clip through itself, etc is harder.

But not impossible, so I agree if your game is going to have sliders anyway, and those sliders are going to allow extreme adjustments and not just "length of torso, circumference of boobs", probably you're going to have to take a lot of that into account anyway.

Even still, though, having a "bunch" of sliders can sometimes still not be enough to get from one body type to another. Like, the fact that you can't start with the male body in most of these games and adjust your way to the female one, or vice versa, means there are properties that would need to be made adjustable that currently aren't, in order to actually get you smoothly from one to the other.

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Presets easy, representing all possibilities with sliders hard

[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

And not just representing them, but making it user-friendly. Women and men have "proportions" in the mind's eye, and the base models fit those proportions, and then you make the boobs or the dong larger.

There is a funny set of furry sculptures in the middle of Golden Gate Park that have very plainly been subjected to modesty rules. The end result of this is that the male subject is only allowed to have nipples when he is wearing pants.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 8 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I want Type B, but with male nipples.

We maybe also should have body type C, D, E, F, G, H, etc.

[–] stoicmaverick@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

What's type F have going on?

[–] JayDee@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Machineguns and an ethernet port.

[–] Gormadt@slrpnk.net 1 points 4 hours ago
[–] starchylemming@lemmy.world 113 points 14 hours ago (6 children)

mature modern games are unapologetic and give you a genital selection too

the question is, are you a penis a or penis b type???

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

The dong physics have gotten pretty good

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 23 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (2 children)

And despite all of that maturity, they still do male-gaze, heteronormative centric design.

In BG3, Type A halflings (male presenting) are all dumpy and kinda goofy-looking. Type B halflings are all banging smokeshows. Give me the dumpy looking halflings, man.

In Cyberpunk, the camera lingers on nude women, but hides or ignores male nudity, even if the player character is fem presenting and chooses a male partner.

There's a YouTube video about this, but I can't find it. I'll update later if I do (and remember)

[–] Kaligalis@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Of course, they do the male gaze. The majority of the male audience loves it and the majority of the female audience doesn't care enough to prevent a sale.
It's a no-brainer to implement male gaze if your target audience includes males. It's easy to do and yields a lot of goodwill from that part of the audience. Some gacha games make tons of money just doing the male gaze and literally slopping everything else. It's absurd how well sex sells.

[–] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 hours ago

basically the entire anime and vtuber "cultures" have been nothing but horny bait for years now. What really gets me is how it pretends not to be

[–] starchylemming@lemmy.world 7 points 11 hours ago (13 children)

eh, sounds like an accidental noting burger.

these games are taking inclusion steps. but that doesn't mean they need to stop catering for the majority. its still art made by humans and their own preferences find a way in

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 1 points 45 minutes ago

Catering to the majority is a little wild of a statement. There are a lot of games I'd be embarrassed to play in public because they cater too hard to the lonely, horny dude demographic.

Its fine to put that stuff in but devs should be making it optional so people can play shit in public spaces.

[–] ziproot@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

The usage of the virtual camera in cyberpunk described above is textbook male gaze. Male gaze is specifically about how people aim cameras (in this case virtual cameras) with the assumption that the audience is primarily composed of cisgender, heterosexual men. It seems like you are making this same assumption here when you say “catering for the majority,” especially considering data shows a roughly 50/50 split: https://www.statista.com/statistics/326420/console-gamers-gender/

EDIT: I switched to a global link. The URL says console gamers. The graph title says any device.

[–] Mika@piefed.ca 6 points 8 hours ago

Lmao reminds me the stat where Larian said that the absolute majority played HUMAN WARRIOR :D

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[–] Wren@lemmy.today 38 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I get the modded mega dong.

[–] starchylemming@lemmy.world 46 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (12 children)

tbh baldurs gate and cyberpunk really lacked a proper donger slider

would even be lore accurate with cybernetic dick enhancements in cyberpunk and magic in dnd

[–] jdr@lemmy.ml 16 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (2 children)

Sorry. That's on me.

I was the one responsible for implementing the donger slider in Cyberpunk but I kept getting distracted with all the donger slider field research.

Honestly a real-life donger slider is worth the investment.

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[–] Sabata11792@ani.social 14 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Wheres my cybernetic lady horse cock? Immersion ruined.

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 14 points 11 hours ago

check your mouth. that’s where i keep mine.

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[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 31 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

If femality is stored in the nipples, where are the nipples stored. Maybe the balls I hypothesize.

[–] stoicmaverick@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Where does the dick get stored?

[–] toxicbubble@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

kinda wish it just folded up inside like a dog

[–] lime@feddit.nu 85 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

no character creator has yet to top saints row 2. they just have a "body" slider on top of all the normal "slim/fat", "short/tall", "lanky/muscular" stuff that morphs where the body fat goes. if the booblies get too big your character gets a bra.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 7 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Man, I'd PAY for a modern remake of SR2 that kept it basically as is but added better gfx/QoL stuff. That game was the peak of the series imo

[–] Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world 7 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

You say peak of the series but it still lacks the massive purple dildo from later games

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

And the later games don't have the septic truck mini game, so we are at an impasse....

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[–] justdaveisfine@piefed.social 40 points 15 hours ago (7 children)

Give the Type-A a chest binder. Now everyone is covered.

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