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submitted 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) by RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip to c/lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world
 
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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 1 points 55 minutes ago

You forgot to ask why there's a part that speaks English.

[–] kamen@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

How to piss off at least three sets of people in one shot.

[–] olenkoVD@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 4 hours ago

Maybe it has something to do with the giant red rubber band surrounding it

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 2 points 4 hours ago

They used to be the same country but then the Portuguese got offended for some reason and left. They regret this decision to this day and are commonly known as "the sad ones" n Spain.

[–] MeowerMisfit817@lemmy.world 6 points 7 hours ago

Ah, yes, the Brazillian Guiana.

[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 20 points 15 hours ago
[–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

It's port-of-greece actually

[–] Tryenjer@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

It's port-port actually. One in Latin, the other in Celtic.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (4 children)

I know it's a shitpost, but here's an interesting piece of History:

  • Back in the late 15th century, before Christopher Colombus officially discovered the Americas (more on that later), the Portuguese and the Spanish made a Treaty - the Treaty of Tordesillas - where they divided the World in half, each one getting one half of it.
  • Whilst making the Treaty, the original proposal was that the dividing line (remember, this was before the first trip around the World) would be a North-South line, located 20 nautical miles East of the Cape Verde Islands (which are just ~~East~~ West of the coast of Africa). With the Portuguese side being to the East of that line and the Spanish side to the West.
  • The Portuguese refused that location and instead wanted that line 20,000 nautical miles East of the Cape Verder islands, which was what ended up in that Treaty.
  • Where is now Brazil is to the East of that line, on the Portuguese side, and the rest of South America is to the West of that line, on the Spanish side

This is why the Portuguese and the Brazilians speak the same language, whilst the rest of South America speaks the same language as the Spanish.

Nowadays it's actually believed the Portuguese discovered the Americas before Christopher Columbus did (hence explaining the insistence on the location of that line in the Treaty), though there's also proof that the Vikings discovered the Americas centuries before that.

[–] Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I think I have seen claims that EVERYBODY made it to the Americas before C Columbus. In no order: the Vikings (might be true)
the Irish
the Romans
the Egyptians
the Basques
the Phoenicians
the Polynesians (probably true)
and, of course, people from Atlantis

[–] MyceliumNetwork@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 hours ago

I once heard a great science presentation using sweet potato genetics to make a timeline of Polynesian island inhabitance and it blew my mind. And since then, there is genetic evidence of S American indigenous DNA in some Polynesian populations.

[–] Tryenjer@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago

I also heard that Christopher Columbus tried to secure funding for his expedition, aiming to reach India without sailing around Africa, from the Portuguese Crown before approaching the Spanish one, but he did not obtain the funding.

Some take this as possible evidence that the Portuguese were already aware of a potential territory to the West that would block or complicate the voyage to India via that route.

[–] MrPommeroy@piefed.social 3 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

The Americas are to the west of Europe.. 🙂

[–] bhamlin@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

And to the east. That's the thing about spheres...

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

And to the east, unless you're a Flat Earther.

[–] Danquebec@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

No seriously you mixed up East and West.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

20,000 nautical miles is well over half of the Earth's circumference. Where was east and west mixed up in the post? This seems like a "three rights are a left" situation to me.

[–] Danquebec@sh.itjust.works -1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

If you go that way OK but it's a weird way of saying it.

But Cape Verde is definitely to the West of Africa, not East.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 hours ago

Yeah, you're right on that one. I've corrected it now.

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Did you know that American is also northsouth of Europe? Just go north and ignore the pole, just keep going on a straight line south.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago

Just go north and ignore the pole,

What'd he do this time?

[–] Nouvellalia@lemmy.world 9 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

And the Chinese before that, and what we now consider the native people before that, and tiny sailors from Africa before that.

[–] Caves_of_steel@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I havent heard about the african sailors before - can you point me where i could learn Mord about it ?

I will also throw polynesians in - since the sweetpotato had to come from somewhere

[–] Nouvellalia@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

There is very little information on them, but they left evidence and stories all over. Off the top of my head

The native Hawaiians maintain that there were people who lived there already when they themselves got to Hawaii. They called them the Menehune. Most modern descriptions label them as an ancient, mythical people but the original Hawaiian descriptions did not portray them this way. They firmly maintained that people lived there before them and they all shared the island for untold generations.

The Olmec colossal heads in Mexico are likely depictions of these people

The Ishak and the Uma, two native people from the Louisiana Coast were tiny, and very very dark brown to black skinned people who did not share cultural or physical similarity with the taller native groups throughout the rest of North America. I know at least one of their stories comes from a time of dramatically different ocean levels. They passed down that when the ocean rises and won't stop, you have to walk to San Antonio essentially. Compared to elevation maps of a full melt, they are right. They also have stories of the entire bottom half of Louisiana disappearing and eventually showing back up.

One of the oldest stories passed down by the Gunditjmara people of Australia that can reliably be dated and located in Australia, is from 40k years ago. They have older, verifable stories, the oldest being 100k years, but they deal with the sky so scientists say they were in Africa at that time. Though they themselves maintain they were not. They also have stories of tiny seafaring master builders, just like in Hawaii.

Everywhere I've mentioned had very ancient, giant structures. In some places, only the foundation remains. Everyone always remembers how deft these people were at building. They were always remembered as being small. They had black skin and African features. They are from so very long ago that they must have come from Africa.

It makes sense that the first successful sailors were tiny. They would need dramatically less space and less food. We already know Africa has an ancient, genetically destinct line of tiny people.

You can't just Google up any information on any of this unless you already know specifically what you are looking for. Colonized history absolutely will not abide information about a powerful, ancient Africa. The whole of the European historical record is now and has always been, overtly hostile to it, but the proof is everywhere.

You can find it in first accounts, ancient depictions and stories, and absolutely beyond ancient foundations. I mean, even giant Greek and Roman buildings, themselves ancient, have been found to be built on foundations that make the current structures seem young, and the current giant marble works, seem small.

There was a people doing great works all over, a long time ago, and Europe would rather deride it as "ancient aliens", than the simple, evidence based truth that Africa, all our motherland, was obviously first to the world's throne.

[–] Leomas@lemmy.world 1 points 40 minutes ago (1 children)

Did I actually encounter a Hotep in the wild, or is this a well written shitpost? In any case: You not being able to google that is not because of the (existing) white-supremacy, but because it's just a silly larp. Anyway, if you think this is real and makes you happy, you do you, but no, there is no evidence for a global empire anywhere at any point in time, be it from any continent. If it makes you feel better, there have been huge, rich, powerful empires in Africa and that is pretty much undisputed. I know this was likely just a shitpost, but it does confuse me why people feel the need to spin such tales and seriously believe them.

[–] Nouvellalia@lemmy.world 1 points 15 minutes ago* (last edited 12 minutes ago)

I never said it was an empire. It was probably just early people really good at building on land so they tried and succeeded building on water, and they happened to be at a daily caloric intake and a generationally coastal diet that made long voyages easier.

Then they just sailed around the world over a few thousand years or ten. Probably on what we would consider boats far far to primitive and small to do it, but nevertheless they did it.

The fact that you needed to build a strawman, the very familiar tones dripping off your words, and the fact that you assumed my race and belittled me for it, speak volumes about your personal isms and beliefs. You are a shining example of how and why this information, when it appears in the geologic and oral record, is treated and promptly discarded.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 22 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] halendos@lemmy.world 109 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] halendos@lemmy.world 94 points 1 day ago (1 children)

(also relevant, also not my meme)

[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 22 points 20 hours ago (8 children)

I don't know about Portuguese but there is a meme about English:

[UK flag] English (traditional)

[US flag] English (simplified)

Which is not really historically accurate because both standards developed more or less simultaneously after independence and before standardization, the variety was greater than the difference today. But I digress.

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[–] ray@sh.itjust.works 84 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Continental drift. This was a part of Brazil that broke off and drifted across the ocean. Then it joined up with the rest of Spain, which had broken off from Mexico. That's why the rest of Spain speaks Mexican.

[–] Rusty@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

And France is just a part of Quebec that drifted away.

[–] ray@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago

France was actually two parts of Québec that drifted separately and then rejoined later on. The Paris region lingered in the ocean a bit longer, and people got accustomed to thinking of it as an island. That's why they named it Île-de-France.

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 37 points 1 day ago (13 children)

Saw a student once using the term "Port of Guesses" unironically in a final submission.

Like, how do you fuck up that badly that you don't notice that? I mean obviously it was just laziness, but still.

So now I've got a minecraft village named the Port of Guesses in honor of that nonsense lol

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