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[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

A collection of titles from today's /r/teachers:

  • Are high school students actually this clueless and entitled?

  • Admin just told us that "strong classroom management" eliminates the need for consequences. I am losing my mind.

  • Convinced my school to let me go back to textbooks for next year!

  • "I've chosen not to do the extra credit assignment, because I don't think it's fair."

  • Why do some parents who didn’t have strong academic experiences in school still choose to teach or homeschool their children?

  • Why don't schools hold students back a grade anymore if they are not meeting that grade's standards?

  • With all the “schools should teach this” and “why isn’t this taught in school” I’m starting to wonder if we even need parents.

  • Have you ever had to deal with a parent trying to control what you can teach in your lessons?

  • Tell me why my school's admin has decided it's a good idea to require teachers to accept late work up until the week after summer starts?

  • Students won't listen and are extremely mean

  • How can I take an interest in my students without being perceived as intrusive or weird?

  • Update: Assaulted by students - 3 week suspension

  • How many of y'all have secondary incomes?

  • Why is 'fighting' not expulsion worthy?

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Older millennial here. Feeling pretty worried about my end-of-life care at the moment. I have visions of a troop of clowns trying to take care of me as my body slowly shuts down.

[–] cmbabul@slrpnk.net 6 points 18 hours ago

Don’t worry friend, we were probably never gonna have good ends to our lives even before this!

[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 8 points 21 hours ago

I’m not worried. Assisted suicide for me. I have no idea why people choose to suffer than just deal with the inevitable. We take better care of our pets than we do of our elderly.

[–] Waldelfe@feddit.org 2 points 21 hours ago

Don"t worry, that will all be handled by robots powered by the latest GenAI-model.

[–] jtrek@startrek.website 39 points 1 day ago (1 children)

For years, schools taught reading using approaches that de-emphasized phonics and encouraged strategies such as guessing words based on context clues. As reading scores tumbled over the past decade, parents, scholars and literacy advocates pushed for teaching methods that align with decades of research about how kids learn to read — largely by sounding out words.

Yeah that was a huge fuck up.

https://features.apmreports.org/sold-a-story/ goes into detail.

But also our society doesn't value education very much. Teachers don't make good money, so many people who would be good at it go into other jobs. One of my recent jobs had like 3 ex-teachers in software. They were making like double for half the work. That's great for them, but do we really need more tech setups that much?

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Just sound it out was one of my least favorite things to be told as a child. That’s not how English works. Take Pacific Ocean for instance, literally every C in those two words is pronounced differently. And more importantly knowing how a word is pronounced is not going to give you any fucking understanding of what it means.

[–] jtrek@startrek.website 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's certainly better than "look at the pictures and guess".

Go read (or listen to) the article. People who have studied this more than either of us have weighed in.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It's not just kids...

I don't know if people are relying on AI and losing critical thinking, long term COVID, micro plastics in the brain, or with the lack of reward for labor everyone just stopped giving a shit.

But something has fucking happened in the last 5 years.

Way too many people are just incapable of incredibly basic thinking.

[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is societal burn out. Everyone hates it and is done if you dont have 7 or 8 figures in the bank.

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

We need a fucking worldwide revolution

[–] thisorthatorwhatever@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's like a slow slide into civilization oblivion. Everything all at once seems to be getting worse. Housing costs are up, teaching salaries are down, kids aren't learning as fast. Food prices, obesity, falling health standards. Oversized cars, suburban sprawl, lack of investment in public transportation. A.I. constantly giving wrong answers, doubling work.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

I think a big factor is effort isn't rewarded.

The only people I see giving a fuck these days are veterans, or others who are used to doing shit because no one else will do it. In any military organization at least 20% are pulling a Marshawn Lynch every day they put a uniform on.

Why bust your ass instead of doing the absolute bare minimum to not get yelled at?

It's like running from a bear versuses running after a rabbit. Fear motivates you to not be slowest, pursuit of rewards motivates you to be the fastest.

There's no reasonable expectations of rewards, were all just avoiding getting eaten

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago

Even just driving, people drive like morons compared to just 5 or 10 years ago and it wasn’t exactly great 5 or 10 years ago.

[–] unitedwithme@lemmy.today 11 points 1 day ago (7 children)

I've noticed things like no more cursive being taught, schools dumb down grading systems to inflate test scores to keep gov funding vs tackling the challenges of waning attention spans, and many others.

The other day I saw an ad for Sketcher's "slip in shoes" for no more tying necessary. It's not just YouTube or TikTok that's adopted these quick play video styles that kids doom scroll, now it's on Disney + and I'm sure other platforms.

It's a huge technological effort to slowly remove critical thinking skills, independency skills, and just overall more obedient. Legit Idiocracy.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Everyone else seems to be focusing on the slip on shoes, but I just wanted to say cursive sucks and time spent on it is IMO wasted. Should teach/practice legible printing instead, though even bad printing is often more readable than most cursive.

[–] LemmyFeed@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Cursive exercises the brain in different ways than block writing. It's not strictly about learning and using cursive as a replacement to printing, it's more about using the brain in a different way and building pathways that otherwise might not get built. Writing the letter G in cursive uses different brain areas than writing it in print.

A similar thing happens in relation to using a keyboard to type words vs physically writing them, the brain functions differently with each method and writing uses more brain to process all the nuance that occurs. Writing the letter G is much different than pressing a G key.

Cursive is likely useful for developing fine motor skills at an age where that's really important, it probably has benefits for general handwriting legibility while possibly being slightly less boring than just practicing print writing. I'm of the opinion that we should keep cursive, but integrate it into an expanded art class and add calligraphy.

[–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 21 hours ago

For all the folks that saw they are bad a writting, struggle at writting, one solution for me with this was blending cursive with print. Cursive can be easier to write. Im glad I learned it.

I do think it is important to know, for a few reasons

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My wife is highly intelligent and prefers to wear ballet flats, I don’t think you’re going to be able to convince anybody of a relationship between tying shoes and intelligence.

[–] unitedwithme@lemmy.today 5 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I just mean for younger kids. I get it's not a whole encompassing thing, but just feels like they're over simplifying some things vs teaching. Little toddler shoes, velcro or slip on, sure, but the ad had like 8-10y/o slipping on shoes.

[–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 21 hours ago

As a parent I know what you mean.

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Gonna have to call bullshit on the going against slipon shoes. That doesnt necessarily have to involve intelligence, some people just like to be able to come and go without needing to lace up/delace every time or constantly. It arguably makes way more sense than having to deal with laces 2x for every single excursion.

I know its probably an Idiocracy thing but you couldnt pay me to rely on tied shoes, I want to slip in and out and get going. If im going running/rollerblading/skating ofc ill lace up but otherwise why if you have a comfortable aesthetic pair of slipons?

[–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 21 hours ago

but you already know how to tie your shoes when you need to.

Kids dont know how to tie thier shoes, and if they never own a pair woth laces, they wont learn the skill to begin with, nor practice it enough to get good at it.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Usually those shoes are for old people who physically can't tie laces

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Or people who like to come and go seamlessly

[–] CoryCoolguy@lemmy.myserv.one 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's been 23 years and I still view my move from Velcro shoes to laces to be a complete and utter downgrade. And cursive is archaic.

[–] unitedwithme@lemmy.today 3 points 23 hours ago

My point was more so to sign your name, read the declaration of independence or other "valuable" and historical documents. Chromebooks seemed like a good idea for education 10 years ago and now new hires at work look at me like I'm speaking Greek when I ask to click the Start button.

So many programs are moving web-based, which I can understand why from a software control standpoint to help cut support calls, but also at the same time, it's removing critical thinking skills as its a constant reliance on others to do or fix or troubleshoot or whatever. I feel like its an attempt at oversimplification and automaton to keep people docile and just focus on their tasks.

All that isn't bad, but when you look at people working longer hours, child labor laws being rolled back, and some combinations of others, it starts to feel very intentional and controlling.

[–] CluckN@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Alright fight me the sketchers slip-in shoes are amazing. Tying both shoes to take out the garbage is 50 seconds of my life I’ll never get back. It’s like having a pair of semi-formal crocs.

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

That's what "the old pair" is for. Just leave them untied and loose, and your good pair gets tied for doing anything more.

[–] CluckN@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah now my neighbors can see me taking out the trash with a greasy grey T-shirt and untied shoes. The other neighbors will call me Grey Goose and shun me into being a hermit that haunts Maycomb.

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

Time to move to a lower class neighborhood. Problem solved!

[–] FirstCircle@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 day ago

I think that brand of shoes is at least somewhat designed for the elderly to use. I didn't know they had 'no-tie' shoes but the pair of ordinary Sketcher's sneakers I have (w/laces), which are great, have this fabric loop thing behind the heels that I think is supposed to help people who might struggle to get them on their feet. You can put a finger in the loop and haul them on if you need/want to.

Loafers (no laces) have been a thing forever. I often wear "boat shoes" or "docksiders" which come with leather laces that you pretty much never tie/untie. These shoes are effectively loafers for most people and are super comfortable.

[–] Mantzy81@aussie.zone 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

"US kids".

Other countries still care about education. Stupid people are easier to control, hence why the US has been purposely abandoning their children. They import smart people from other countries as it's easy to also rort the system if you're looking for funding from wealthy investors, abusing staff due to the poor employee protections, weak environmental protections and easy access to corruption.

[–] TribblesBestFriend@startrek.website 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sadly not only US I follow the education news of Quebec and Ontario. It’s not that great

[–] The_v@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Excessive Technology for students to use in the classroom is directly linked to lower test scores.

Reasons:

School work like any job has boring and monotonous tasks: Chromebooks etc offer endless opportunity for kids to avoid doing their work. Games, videos, or just random browsing.

Different learning methods of different students: For many students the physical act of writing letters etc on paper or reading from a physical book helps, them retain information better than a screen.

Slower speed - When learning something going slower improves retention and accuracy. It forces the brain to process the information more completely rather than skimming.

[–] Blackfeathr@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

I know of a kindergarten teacher who can't spell basic words like "minute" nor differentiate between homophones (e.g. "weather" vs "whether").

She is also coincidentally deep into TikTok and AI. It's really sad.