"Oh my goodness, this is a nightmare" typed everyone into their government approved location recording devices that can show them cats and boobs.
this post was submitted on 24 May 2026
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Ok now what router do I gotta buy and what firmware do I have to flash to plug this into Home Assistant?
and how do you protect yourself against the neighbors devices, especially in a densely populated building
Faraday cage, it's going to be a hassle to wiremesh your entire apartment, and you can forget using a mobile phone inside of it, but there are no outside signals getting in that way.
If I was a capitalist, knowing I am few and and my power only comes from the resources I own, resources stolen from the masses. I would use my stolen wealth to safe guard my own class interests against the masses. Hence we see surveillance capitalism.
IIRC, when Meta bought out iRobot, it slipped out that they were using Roombas to collect the square footage and entire layout of your house to add to your data sets. So this doesn't seem surprising at all. Good thing I configure my own router and firewall.
The question with mandating US made routers may be either to protect citizens from foreign attacks - or to make sure every US router has a router with a government-approved backdoor.
On which option would you bet?
My meta-quest 3s is constantly scanning my home floor plan and I'm sure it's getting shipped off to "Big Surveillance".
Arguably that's a bit difference because to do that you have to explicitly do it (room setup) and you view the result (visual preview with semi-transparent triangles over your place). You can also read the ToS and I believe in some case specify if you allow the information to be sent back to the Meta. I'm not saying it's OK, only that it's explicit and it's part of the "normal" usage of the device.
I also know that someone once demonstrated that you can do this with just a phone camera and it's gyo and get pretty good results. That was back in 2016 before VR was much of a thing.
I guess these days you could just don't with a camera and generate a Splat from it.
A VR headset is basically a phone with lenses, so yes. That's why cardboard and free promotional gifts of lenses snapping on phones work.
My point though isn't about the technical abilities but rather about the social expectations. If you buy a device that does something intrusive but you know that in order to deliver the main value it will do that, it's OK. It's part of the social contract. If somehow though a device is intrusive but it's not expected, either because it was thought to be impossible to do or unrelated to it's original purpose or both, then it's a big problem, a breach of the social contract.
That's it, I'm gonna start violently beating my meat at my router if this is what they're going for.
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Christoffer Nolan predicted this!
If you read the article ( https://dl.acm.org/doi/epdf/10.1145/3719027.3765062 ) they are testing this in an EXTREMELY controlled enviroment and directed subjects... I have my doubts that this could provide any insight on whether this is even feaseble for public surveillance, let alone effective...
I can tell you as someone who read the papers on very early deepfakes and AI video generation with amazement followed by dread, this is going to be feasible on a large scale in a short period of time. Researchers do stuff on an absolute shoestring budget usually, it's incomparable to what large companies and governments have at their disposal. There are already consumer products that were able to become fairly precise motion sensors with just a firmware update. Next gen devices will be built with motion fingerprinting in mind, I can almost guarantee it.
Walk without rhythm and we won't attract the ~~worm~~ big brother.
It gets more accurate with more access points, too. So corporate and education settings will be the easy places for this to get implemented.
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At this point I'd prefer the Chinese routers.
Mass data mixed with machine learning pattern identification means what already exists will lead to broken as fuck capabilities for those who own everyone. Ie. Not us.
Nothing new for infosec people..
and this is why you should flood your home with as many APs as possible. I have 17 APs running in my 1000sqft house.
can't find shit if it's too noisy.
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This technology has been publicly demonstrated about 3 years ago, but I imagine it has been done years and years back. It's really nothing mind blowing, just the way waves work, workaround believe it or not is the tin foil your walls.
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"Identify" seems like a very misleading word in this context. Isn't it just detecting and locating? Or am I misunderstanding and they can tell me and my roommate appart?
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