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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 141 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Plaintiff are seeking up to $43m in damages in defamation case and Giuliani’s lawyer tells court it would ‘be the end’ of him if he loses

So the lawyer is saying the justice system is working as intended?

[–] bestnerd@lemmy.world 69 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I see this as an absolute win

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 69 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Me too, and I love the "if you punish my client, it will be bad for him" argument. That's clearly the sign of a good lawyer.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago

It's the best argument he's got, and can you blame him? There isn't a lawyer alive who could win this for old ink scalp. His only hope is a stacked court.

[–] bestnerd@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This should be taught in law school in Trial Law 101: best defense

“Your honor, this verdict is horrible for my client. Move for a mistrial.”

“Ah good point, didn’t think of that. Wouldn’t want to inconvience this man. Granted”

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[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 71 points 2 years ago (8 children)

The dildo of consequences is approaching rapidly, and he's fresh out of lube.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

gotta be careful. even a back-pat can kill him, you know.

(also... be extra mindful of safe sex. fucking this guy is how you catch all the STDs... and some new and interesting ones.)

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago

Only his family members have to worry about STDs from him.

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[–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 65 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Four Seasons Total Landscaping

[–] FriendOfElphaba@sh.itjust.works 24 points 2 years ago

He was just tucking his shirt in.

[–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago

Still the funniest press conference in world history.

And it was incredible before Giuliani found out live that the election was called.

[–] Hyperreality@kbin.social 61 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Former Time Person of the Year, America's Mayor, and someone who once stood a realistic chance of becoming president.

What a fall from grace.

If only he'd retired at 65.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 51 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Makes you realize, like Trump, that all of those accomplishments were the result of his PR team and the mainstream media's propaganda machine — he succeeded in spite of his own stupidity and incompetence.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 36 points 2 years ago (4 children)

A lot of it also had to do with being mayor of NY when 9/11 happened.

Before 9/11, he wasn’t that popular of a mayor.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

Or even after. A lot of the blame for 9/11 was layed at his feet for putting a major communications center in the towers after it had already been attacked once in the 90s.

https://www.publishersweekly.com/9780060536602

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[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 20 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Rudy had one of the longest lucky streaks in human history. He won the NYC Mayor's race because he was the Federal prosecutor who took down Donald Manes, a big Queens County Democratic boss. He got plenty of press coverage, but the truth was that the actual story was broken by Jimmy Breslin. Crime rates were already going down across the country when he became NY mayor, his boasts of beign a great crime fighter don't hold up. Then he became 'America's Mayor.' He made it to third on three errors but thought he hit a triple.

[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

He made it to third on three errors but thought he hit a triple.

That's a great line.

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[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 58 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Good time for Giuliani to find those bootstraps to pull himself up. Maybe cut back on the avocado toast and Netflix. If he has a phone on him, means he's won't be poor and bankrupt, just lazy.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 50 points 2 years ago

A jury decision awarding tens of millions of dollars in damages for defamation would be a “death penalty” for Rudy Giuliani, his lawyer said during opening statements in a trial that got underway Monday.

Hand me the soap, I need to cry a few tears for him.

Well, if it ruins him, it works as intended. He put them through hell and back with his lies, now it's ample time he pays up. I mean, it should suite him, as he is such a law and order guy.

[–] 4am@lemm.ee 39 points 2 years ago

Oh no, he’ll lose everything and become working class again! The death of a bourgeois! You can’t do this, judge! He’s supported to be protected by the system! 😱

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 34 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm sure his great friend Donald Trump will be happy to make Rudy whole; it's pocket change to the world's richest man!

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[–] Hyperreality@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Trump could probably bail him out. He won't though. Fascists have contempt for the weak. Trump likely despises Giuliani now.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago

Trump has been broke for years. He personally doesn't drink, but sold his name to 'Trump Vodka.' He took a $1 billion bath when he brought and then had to sell The Plaza Hotel in NYC. He's a terrible dealmaker, but loves to play the big shot. He is a total joke to the real NYC wheeler dealers.

Here's a link to my favorite Trump story; the tldr is that he was given a golden opportunity to get in good with the Manhattan elites and blew it all through his own arrogance, greed, and stupidity.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaellisicky/2020/10/03/how-donald-trump-took-down-bonwit-teller-a-fifth-avenue-landmark/?sh=72a36fa25f69

[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 32 points 2 years ago

Not sure I see a problem here

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's not like wealthy people ever go broke anyways. Look at Alex Jones, owes millions in judgments but is still spending to the tune of 100k a month, and still making million and is on tv, etc. How is that broke and how is he not being forced to live in a trailer park till his judgments are paid? Any one of us owes money, they'll put you on the streets, literally, to get their money. But rich people get to go on being rich, even when they owe millions.

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[–] Gazumi@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago

Humanity won't miss him

[–] Diplomjodler@feddit.de 24 points 2 years ago

As Republicans like to say: "if you can't do the time, don't do the crime".

[–] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago

Maybe Rudy shouldn't have said and done things that could cost him so much money then.

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 24 points 2 years ago

the time to consider whether you can serve the penalty for breaking the law is before you break the law, not after. if you don't have tens of millions of dollars, don't purposely cause tens of millions of dollars in damage.

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 23 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don't see how this is a death sentence. Plenty of other people have gone bankrupt without dying.

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[–] TheOneWithTheHair@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Maybe Uncle DonDon can spare him a bunk at Mar-a-lago.

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[–] ohlaph@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I like former New York mayor's who aren't involved with defamation crimes.

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[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 years ago

First of all, bullshit lmao

Second of all, I'd be OK with that even if it wasn't bullshit: These treasonous assholes shouldn't be allowed to get away with their many, many crimes.

[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Careful not to put him under too much pressure or his hair will start leaking

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] theodewere@kbin.social 16 points 2 years ago

that drama queen facing any amount of justice is certain to result in legendary amounts of whining and crying

[–] captainjaneway@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

Eight jurors were seated in Giuliani’s defamation case. Jurors were asked several questions, including, “Do you believe that Joseph R Biden’s election as president of the United States in 2020 was illegitimate?” and “Have you ever used the phrase “Let’s Go Brandon” or the term or hashtag “WWG1WGA”?

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

According to his lawyer, who has been paid up front.

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago
[–] charonn0@startrek.website 6 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Even if true, so what?

Is that really something the judge is meant to consider?

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[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

~~wait... Ghoulliani is still allowed to pracetice law?!~~

(reading is hard, okay? I thought this said Ghoulliani told the court his client would be facing the death sentence. Still. he's a greasy shit stain)

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