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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 141 points 10 months ago

Plaintiff are seeking up to $43m in damages in defamation case and Giuliani’s lawyer tells court it would ‘be the end’ of him if he loses

So the lawyer is saying the justice system is working as intended?

[-] bestnerd@lemmy.world 69 points 10 months ago

I see this as an absolute win

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 69 points 10 months ago

Me too, and I love the "if you punish my client, it will be bad for him" argument. That's clearly the sign of a good lawyer.

[-] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 28 points 10 months ago

It's the best argument he's got, and can you blame him? There isn't a lawyer alive who could win this for old ink scalp. His only hope is a stacked court.

[-] bestnerd@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago

This should be taught in law school in Trial Law 101: best defense

“Your honor, this verdict is horrible for my client. Move for a mistrial.”

“Ah good point, didn’t think of that. Wouldn’t want to inconvience this man. Granted”

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[-] rtxn@lemmy.world 71 points 10 months ago

The dildo of consequences is approaching rapidly, and he's fresh out of lube.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 32 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

gotta be careful. even a back-pat can kill him, you know.

(also... be extra mindful of safe sex. fucking this guy is how you catch all the STDs... and some new and interesting ones.)

[-] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 13 points 10 months ago

Only his family members have to worry about STDs from him.

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[-] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 65 points 10 months ago

Four Seasons Total Landscaping

[-] FriendOfElphaba@sh.itjust.works 24 points 10 months ago

He was just tucking his shirt in.

[-] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago

Still the funniest press conference in world history.

And it was incredible before Giuliani found out live that the election was called.

[-] Hyperreality@kbin.social 61 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Former Time Person of the Year, America's Mayor, and someone who once stood a realistic chance of becoming president.

What a fall from grace.

If only he'd retired at 65.

[-] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 51 points 10 months ago

Makes you realize, like Trump, that all of those accomplishments were the result of his PR team and the mainstream media's propaganda machine — he succeeded in spite of his own stupidity and incompetence.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 36 points 10 months ago

A lot of it also had to do with being mayor of NY when 9/11 happened.

Before 9/11, he wasn’t that popular of a mayor.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

Or even after. A lot of the blame for 9/11 was layed at his feet for putting a major communications center in the towers after it had already been attacked once in the 90s.

https://www.publishersweekly.com/9780060536602

[-] aniki@lemm.ee 5 points 10 months ago

He really wasn't that popular not long after 9/11 either. The leftys in NYC always hated his guts and never bought the media lies.

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[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 20 points 10 months ago

Rudy had one of the longest lucky streaks in human history. He won the NYC Mayor's race because he was the Federal prosecutor who took down Donald Manes, a big Queens County Democratic boss. He got plenty of press coverage, but the truth was that the actual story was broken by Jimmy Breslin. Crime rates were already going down across the country when he became NY mayor, his boasts of beign a great crime fighter don't hold up. Then he became 'America's Mayor.' He made it to third on three errors but thought he hit a triple.

[-] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

He made it to third on three errors but thought he hit a triple.

That's a great line.

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[-] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 58 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Good time for Giuliani to find those bootstraps to pull himself up. Maybe cut back on the avocado toast and Netflix. If he has a phone on him, means he's won't be poor and bankrupt, just lazy.

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 50 points 10 months ago

A jury decision awarding tens of millions of dollars in damages for defamation would be a “death penalty” for Rudy Giuliani, his lawyer said during opening statements in a trial that got underway Monday.

Hand me the soap, I need to cry a few tears for him.

Well, if it ruins him, it works as intended. He put them through hell and back with his lies, now it's ample time he pays up. I mean, it should suite him, as he is such a law and order guy.

[-] 4am@lemm.ee 39 points 10 months ago

Oh no, he’ll lose everything and become working class again! The death of a bourgeois! You can’t do this, judge! He’s supported to be protected by the system! 😱

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 34 points 10 months ago

I'm sure his great friend Donald Trump will be happy to make Rudy whole; it's pocket change to the world's richest man!

[s/]

[-] Hyperreality@kbin.social 8 points 10 months ago

Trump could probably bail him out. He won't though. Fascists have contempt for the weak. Trump likely despises Giuliani now.

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 11 points 10 months ago

Trump has been broke for years. He personally doesn't drink, but sold his name to 'Trump Vodka.' He took a $1 billion bath when he brought and then had to sell The Plaza Hotel in NYC. He's a terrible dealmaker, but loves to play the big shot. He is a total joke to the real NYC wheeler dealers.

Here's a link to my favorite Trump story; the tldr is that he was given a golden opportunity to get in good with the Manhattan elites and blew it all through his own arrogance, greed, and stupidity.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaellisicky/2020/10/03/how-donald-trump-took-down-bonwit-teller-a-fifth-avenue-landmark/?sh=72a36fa25f69

[-] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 32 points 10 months ago

Not sure I see a problem here

[-] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 31 points 10 months ago

It's not like wealthy people ever go broke anyways. Look at Alex Jones, owes millions in judgments but is still spending to the tune of 100k a month, and still making million and is on tv, etc. How is that broke and how is he not being forced to live in a trailer park till his judgments are paid? Any one of us owes money, they'll put you on the streets, literally, to get their money. But rich people get to go on being rich, even when they owe millions.

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[-] Gazumi@lemmy.world 27 points 10 months ago

Humanity won't miss him

[-] hoanbridgetroll@midwest.social 26 points 10 months ago

Fucked around and found out.

Can’t wait for his criminal convictions.

[-] Diplomjodler@feddit.de 24 points 10 months ago

As Republicans like to say: "if you can't do the time, don't do the crime".

[-] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 24 points 10 months ago

the time to consider whether you can serve the penalty for breaking the law is before you break the law, not after. if you don't have tens of millions of dollars, don't purposely cause tens of millions of dollars in damage.

[-] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago

Maybe Rudy shouldn't have said and done things that could cost him so much money then.

[-] bstix@feddit.dk 23 points 10 months ago

I don't see how this is a death sentence. Plenty of other people have gone bankrupt without dying.

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[-] treefrog@lemm.ee 22 points 10 months ago

If I was the judge I'd interpret this as him having made suicidal threats to his council. And I'd place a psychiatric hold so he gets the help he apparently needs.

[-] TheOneWithTheHair@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Maybe Uncle DonDon can spare him a bunk at Mar-a-lago.

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[-] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee 20 points 10 months ago

I wonder if he ever thought to himself, “Now how did I get here?”

[-] nulluser@programming.dev 26 points 10 months ago

I wonder he ever tells himself, "This is not my beautiful house."

[-] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

And you may tell yourself, "This is not my beautiful ~~wife~~ cousin.”

[-] ohlaph@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago

I like former New York mayor's who aren't involved with defamation crimes.

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[-] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 17 points 10 months ago

First of all, bullshit lmao

Second of all, I'd be OK with that even if it wasn't bullshit: These treasonous assholes shouldn't be allowed to get away with their many, many crimes.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago
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[-] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Careful not to put him under too much pressure or his hair will start leaking

[-] theodewere@kbin.social 16 points 10 months ago

that drama queen facing any amount of justice is certain to result in legendary amounts of whining and crying

[-] captainjaneway@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

Eight jurors were seated in Giuliani’s defamation case. Jurors were asked several questions, including, “Do you believe that Joseph R Biden’s election as president of the United States in 2020 was illegitimate?” and “Have you ever used the phrase “Let’s Go Brandon” or the term or hashtag “WWG1WGA”?

[-] ikidd@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

According to his lawyer, who has been paid up front.

[-] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago
[-] charonn0@startrek.website 6 points 10 months ago

Even if true, so what?

Is that really something the judge is meant to consider?

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