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[–] hypeerror@sh.itjust.works 68 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

We just figured the galaxy didn't have the budget for non humanoid intelligent life.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 44 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

his (assuming he?) existence can be compared to that of Carcinisation. some species just always evolve into crabs, some always evolve into amorphous tar blobs that embody evil.

[–] PlasticExistence@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] CentipedeFarrier@piefed.social 11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

One head-type-thing and four limb-type-things, with only two being primarily locomotive, makes that more humanoid than not on an intergalactic body plan scale.

We are very bad at thinking up truly alien life.

[–] SippyCup@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I respect the constraints of production budgets. I don't expect TV aliens to look much different than people with some crap glued to their face.

Mass Effect at least branched out a little. But all of the squad mates were still basically humanoid. I expect they used mocap and similar limitations. Though it really could have benefitted from an Elcor squad mate.

"Irritated; you are a jackass... Captain. Irreverent; the cultists... Do not matter. Hopeful; bombard them from orbit and let's... Go."

[–] CentipedeFarrier@piefed.social 4 points 2 weeks ago

I don't expect TV aliens to look much different than people with some crap glued to their face.

I mean.. I kinda do.. especially these days when CGI makes up more than half of your budget for nonsense reasons. Why don't they try harder? They could and it would cost them zero extra.

[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

The Hooloovoo resemble a super-intelligent shade of the colour blue. One was seen in a prism for Zaphod Beeblebrox's address upon stealing the Heart of Gold. On certain special occasions, such as the aforementioned Presidential event, they refract into a free-standing prism.

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[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

For real though, there’s a reason you only see the Aquatics and the Insectoids in like two episodes of Enterprise.

[–] 14th_cylon@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

and yaphit might have been a reason why orville ran out of budget and was not renewed 😆

[–] 13igTyme@piefed.social 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Orville was technically never cancelled. Seth also confirmed a few months ago that the script for the newest season is written, but it's hard to find time for all the actors at the moment.

[–] 14th_cylon@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 weeks ago

Technically.... I am not sure it means much, since writing a script is a lot cheaper than turning it into finished series.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Right right only canon shows count

[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 29 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

"We were too busy fighting"

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

There's a lesson here.

[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 6 points 2 weeks ago

Everybody was kung fu fighting

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 26 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

also why they can interbreed

[–] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

Life, uh, finds a way.

[–] DharkStare@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

Star Trek Enterprise explains that it involves medical intervention to allow interbreeding between species. I've always assumed that's what was going on for everyone.

[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 weeks ago

I kinda just forgot Spock, Torres, and Troy were half human

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Fuck anything hard enough and it will breed

Klingon terraforming 101

[–] Danarchy@lemmy.nz 24 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

My dad when this aired: dang what a good and awesome story with a good and awesome message

Also my dad: Mexicans tho

[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago

Ooo, swing and a miss.

So close.

[–] teft@piefed.social 21 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

Convergent evolution. Maybe bipedal locomotion gives some sort of advantage to intelligence.

[–] tmyakal@infosec.pub 15 points 2 weeks ago

Not intelligence, but tool-wielding.

Pigs and whales are smart, but neither can swing a hammer.

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

Yeah, this is a viable explanation, although it is dependant on life evolving mostly the same way across the galaxy. If life mostly evolves on ocean planets in the Goldilocks Zone frim the same basic elements, then sure, prokaryote, fish, tetrapod, biped could be an extremely common path. But it's entirely possible there are a wide variety of initial circumstances that can generate life, and there are tungsten-based hyper-intelligent shrimp people living in gas giants

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[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Exactly this. Bipedal, fingers for tool making.

[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

It is kind of the minimalist form to let a brain interact with its environment, You have the second lowest number of locomotion limbs but significanly higher efficiency than slithering (0) which means more energy for the brain, And 2 manipulating limbs is the minnimum neccesary to grasp items in a way that allows you to apply torque or brace objects.

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[–] AbsolutelyNotSpez@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Any mention of the word troglodytes gets an instant upvote from me. :)

[–] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)
[–] AbsolutelyNotSpez@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Another instant upvote for Viagra Boys!

[–] WhyIHateTheInternet@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Man that comment works on many levels. Quality shit right here folks.

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[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 weeks ago

It just flashes screenshots of Number Munchers into my brain

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Hey, why do you look like a changeling?

[–] user1234@fedinsfw.app 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

In universe, maybe they were the first humanoid species the changelings encountered.

Realistically, they just didn't get that creative with character design.

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

yeah, I guess that's also why the trill designs changed, the various Klingon forms, etc

[–] Canadian_Cabinet@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It doesn't help that its the same actress for the Progenitor and the Female Changeling

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

... hmmm. I wonder how much it is my bad interpretation and how much of it is based on actress and how much it is the designs being actually similar.

or all three?

[–] Whelks_chance@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I thought this was indeed brought up in the show. Am I wrong?

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Ew. Wash that pan before you have guests

[–] grozzle@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 weeks ago

It did come up again, it's just not many people made it to near the end of Discovery.

[–] cattywampas@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

If she were not dead, I would kill her!

[–] negativenull@piefed.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

HA! I literally watched this episode last night!

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[–] its_kim_love@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 weeks ago

Each one just assumed they were the original and the others are just bad copies.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

So, this episode was in canon when All Good Things was written. Q goes through this whole speech about how the anomaly caused by Picard in the future stops life from forming on Earth, thus humans never exist. "You, in several million years." he says.

How does that interact with the "everyone is seeded from a common ancestor" plot?

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