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sorry but Mark Twain already made the perfect reply to this bullshit line of reasoning about 150 years ago
"His murder takes are, as far as I can tell, a call for CEOs to live in terror and occasionally be murdered until healthcare is fixed forever."
suboptimal policy and business decisions
suboptimal by what metric? because under capitalism social murder is pretty fucking profitable
Yeah this obfuscates that a CEO is directly in line to decisions to deny people healthcare. This isn't suboptimal abstract results, insurance company policy is to deprive people of healthcare for money.
i also like how The Adjuster is "bad, acceptance of murder, street executions," while condemning thousands of people a year to death by neglect is soft-walked as "suboptimal policy, a hard problem"
white moderates etc absence of strife
Because one has the veneer of civility and the other does not. That's all liberals truly care about: the veneer of civility that makes them feel better about the violence inherent to their system. Their politicians all the time call for the murder of homeless people through policy, but because they are calling for it through policy, there is a veneer of civility. But if they said that they would like to kill homeless people outright, most liberals would be compelled to decry it because of the lack of veneer of civility even though the results are the same.
The reason we are able to see through this veneer as leftists is because we understand the material reality of those actions' outcomes.
the fact that the corporate hasan derangement complex have boxed themselves into having to even acknowledge social murder as a concept is such a good self-own
real 
they try to counter this by aggressively misunderstanding what it means, but it's out there now and more people will find out about the concept
The liberal habit of attempting to flatten all socioeconomic distinctions so that the poorest and richest persons in society are equal agents in economic and political capacity, an argument that boils down to the belief that the powerful should not bear any responsibility because hypothetically, a poor person may, somehow in a context-free metaphysical vacuum, get one over on the rich and so it all balances out
People like this know exactly what they're doing, just look how they moralize the adjusters' actions while downplaying the society-breaking carnage Thompson's decisions helped facilitate; so as long as a poor person is alive somewhere, they may theoretically hurt a rich person and so the rich are always justified
nah fuck all this discourse, it was self-defense and it will be self-defense next time
god I love crusty CGI letters
Yep none of this even matters. It's class war and Thompson is a class enemy. Simple as.
I think even without this liberal rhetoric about what makes a just society and even in the absence of excuses for the terror the working class is the more powerful class and can exercise their power to get their way.
This is a Vox journalist whose Wikipedia labels as "Around 2010, while in high school, Piper developed an interest in the rationalist and effective altruism movements. . . . At Stanford she became a member of Giving What We Can, pledging to donate 30% of her lifetime income to charity, as well as founding the student organization Stanford Effective Altruism" So that's the kind of liberal moron you're dealing with.
indirectly upstream
Oh yeah, the relationship between a company that denies care claims in order to maximize profits is only tangentially related to the CEO that runs said company, very indirect.
Worst part is just know this fucker is one of those “CEOs deserve all that pay because of how responsible they are for what happens in their companies” bootlickers.
Being a person in the US with $10k and not donating it to givewell is social murder
I mean.. Yes? To an extent.
The issue here is that there are grades of this shit. And comparing the CEOs of healthcare companies to the average person with ten thousand dollars to excuse it is extremely bad faith. They aren't comparable in the slightest. We're talking about world level Olympic sprinter athlete level of social murder vs the dude at the pub who jogs every now and then.
This basically feels like the environmental individualism defence. Where they try and offload the ills of the 10 biggest industries in the world onto the average person who doesn't recycle all their plastics. If we address all the megacorps doing it then the individual level will be hardly anything to resolve afterwards.
More to the point, if we do the job right with the 10 corporations, there will be no unnecessary plastics for the one guy to fail to recycle.
Yeah exactly. If all the healthcare CEOs and whatever else are sorted out, john $10k won't need to help others because they'll already be helped out.
The problem isn't the little individual it's the big dickbags.
John $10k probably saved that just in case he falls victim to an accident that should be free with a functioning healthcare system. People who can, save money because the next once in a lifetime capitalist financial crisis is just around the corner.
Even calling it a healthcare system is a joke. A healthcare system would prioritises turning sick people into healthier people. The system prioritises turning sick people into billable events.
So imagine a burge…no fuck that, Brits need to be told the horrors of “insurance”.
Imagine a chippy. It’s at least a normal business “give me some quid and you get chips. Pretty simple, ‘innit?” Now imagine if that chippy said “oi bruv, yew got a loicense to not give me money?” and you were legally required to give your money to a chippy, but every time you ask for chips, the chippy will come up with any excuse to say no including “not feeling it, m8.”
Sick of white collar crime getting a free pass on aesthetics alone. Lawful evil is still evil.
I'll grant that "very few people involved are just letting people for fun", they're mostly doing it for money and power
: “But it’s nothing PERSONAL, kiddo! It’s not my fault corruption makes money! If anything I’M the victim here! Don’t hold this against me!”
Why do they make the big bucks again if they’re all just poor widdle smol beans? They’re the ones running the show, EVERYTHING is their fault. And fuck them for thinking “but I didn’t fully INTEND this” is a good enough excuse.
The porks are complete and utter children and the world makes a lot more sense when you see them as 8 year olds.
Children understood that Lord Thomas "its just good business" Beckett is the villain in Pirates of the Caribbean, so 8 year olds arr clearly better at understanding that businessmen are evil than the average news reporter
I hope she gets really sick and trapped in medical debt.
very few people involved are just letting people die for fun
Ok but what about the ones even you seemingly admit are murdering people for "fun". 
And if it's just upstream and downstream effects and no one can really say why murder happens then no complaining when your guy gets got.
Fuck that. If the country doesn’t accept “my body my choice”, then “my billions my choice” isn’t an acceptable argument either.
I'm not reading all that shit. Universal health care now.
Hmm, but what if I just made up a new definition for this term you used, wouldn't your argument be ridiculous then??
indirectly upstream
the secretary taking the meeting minutes is "indirectly upstream", the CEO is responsible
they're calling him a tankie now?!!!
They've been doing that for awhile, where have you been?
Shit, the libs have been calling Anarchists they don't like Tankies! It's utter gibberish