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"I don't like minorities or woke (except the ones I know personally, they're alright), but I like the welfare state (except for when morally bad people get the benefits too)" is what basically every worker here in Europe agrees with outside of gentrified areas of big and/or student cities.
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Hmmm....so you mean nationalists, but they also believe in socialism
Nationalist socialism....has anyone ever tried this?
China
many aes states, in a way
There are probably some fringe religious groups who's adherents might not describe themselves this way but absolutely are
My brother is! He's also someone I'd describe as, "Not spiritual, but religious." He once described Germany's CDU as the closest thing to his politics.
My parents are conservative Catholics, but he was bullied by chuds in his formative years, so I think what happened is he latched on to the aspects of Catholicism that weren't consistent with mainstream chudism. Only, he also didn't get along with the libs (and leftists were super obscure) so he never came around on stuff like LGBT rights or, like, not being racist.
So the result is that he takes Catholic social responsibility teachings seriously, but it comes from a place of moral duty, like "noblesse oblige," and not from a place of liking or empathizing with the underprivileged.
out of curiousity, does he seem really deeply committed to that? Like is it something he likes talking about or is he a legit charitable curmudgeon IRL?
He's very particular and set in his beliefs, yeah. Once we were talking moral philosophy and I casually said I'm a consequentialist and he looked me dead in the eye and said, "I'm a deontologist" and nearly kicked me out of the house over that. It was kinda in the context of AES states where I wasn't really hiding my power level which probably contributed to everything.
I was sometimes able to speak his language because we're both nerds and kinda autistic and in some ways had similar experiences, but the word "trans" was just a bridge too far for him and we haven't really spoken since. Fortunately another living situation worked out afterwards but I was in a depressive funk for a while afterwards.
He doesn't get along with a lot of people and has frequently clashed with managers and coworkers (he works in tech), but he finally found a little town with a Catholic college where he can work remotely and fit in as well as he could anywhere.
Super interesting, thank you for sharing. I'm sorry to hear you hit an irreconcilable difference with him over trans stuff. I can imagine that was pretty fucking awful.
I wonder if he's happy, relatively speaking. Hopefully you are! 
Thanks.
Damn wait until he finds out that consequentialism is just deontology phrased differently.
Badposting aside, I remember reading somewhere that polling shows conservatives are quite fond of welfare policies as long as they only benefit white people so I guess that's them?
I see you haven't met my grandparents.
How can someone be okay with exploitation and be considered socially progressive?
Long term plan of USA is literally to absorb everyone within it, by basically Darwinism, those who make it at the top are deemed worthy as rulers of the world. Like literally the end point of USA is one big World Government where everyone is the same and people are sorted into different groups based on their genetics. Eventually through Darwinism and Technological Advancement as well as assumed abundance of resources, they envision a Utopia where everyone is free to live the perfect life they choose, secured by a government that makes sure nobody interferes with each other in ways that break boundaries and cause irritation. It'll essentially be a world without workers, fully automated and enjoyable, without struggle.
And this is considered socially progressive.
There are only two reasons to oppose Liberals:
- You don't believe it'll work out.
- You don't want it to work out, you want the world to stay as it is.
If you sincerely believe in their ideals and goals you're essentially working towards a Utopia, anything can be justified for such a goal.
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About 80% of GenX union members
Median Voter Ideology
This phenomenon is a lot more common in the global south, though I hesitate to call it "fiscally liberal" when that can just mean Mileiism.