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I hear Babylon 5 and The Expanse is nice, but I hear so little about those two shows I don't know what to expect of these stories.

live action as animated recommendation is allowed.

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[–] StillPaisleyCat@startrek.website 16 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Babylon 5’s is great if you like serialization. The first season is very weak due to a major health crisis in the principal character that occurred between the shooting of the pilot and the launch of the series. The story was adjusted so that a new station head and actor could take on the lead.

Farscape is an absolute gem and a wild ride. It really picks up after the first 12 episodes. It’s so incredibly influential on so many science fiction shows in the streaming era that it’s worth watching just for that alone. Be aware that the show was canceled before it could wrap up its full arc. A limited series was made later to wrap up the storyline — make sure you’ll be able to be able to get it.

I’m a fan of many of the old 1960s and 1970s shows but watching them really depends on your tolerance for older production styles and scripting. Space 1999 is worth tracking down for sure.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 5 points 1 month ago

plus one to farscape. should have listed it in my mentions.

[–] Kirk@startrek.website 5 points 1 month ago

Farscape had absolutely no right to be that good on a $4.99 AUD budget

[–] Mycatiskai@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I highly suggest the skip/watch list for Farscape so people don't waste time on the filler episodes and mandatory flashback episodes.

[–] StillPaisleyCat@startrek.website 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Definitely a YMMV situation.

Many episodes that may be described as ‘filler’ are ones that have side adventures or character development. Farscape isn’t rigidly serialized. Just because it’s not moving the main plot narrative doesn’t mean it’s filler.

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[–] space@reddthat.com 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Battlestar Galactica (2004) is my all-timer. A lot of it feels incredibly salient today imo.

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 2 points 1 month ago

Yes, I'd say BSG is where they take the concept of a federated military in space but move from story of the week to an overarching plot.

Babylon 5 did it too, but not to the same extent. TV was moving from weekly broadcast to streaming and binging.

I think I'm due a rewatch!

[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 month ago (3 children)

The Orville is very good, as it also explores ethics and philosophy like Star Trek and has refreshing ship designs (for example, more vulviform or squid-like, instead of the usual saucer or phallic designs)

[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The Orville needs a disclaimer, reassuring people that Seth McFarlane's humour is reined in eventually (starting in season 2, iirc) and it grows from an okay parody of Trek and scifi into a show with surprisingly deep plot and character development and gags sprinkled on top. (SMF is a cool guy and he can be funny as long as he's not trying to)

Everything about the Moclans is some of the most courageous stuff I've seen on TV, with obvious and still clever parallels to reality and no easy answers offered. And I hate that some people are probably turned off by Seth being Seth in the beginning and never see those storylines.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 5 points 1 month ago

Yeah the Orville is pretty open on that. The first couple eps were written for fox execs who wanted frat boy humour. If the stars should appear (ep 4) is the point where you go "oh shit this is real trek!"

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Orville is the most TNG since TNG.

[–] fallaciousBasis@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

There's no greater ship than LEXX!

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 10 points 1 month ago

Babylon 5 is fantastic - I guess if I were to describe it briefly (and vaguely), it would be "interstellar political drama with mythological undertones."

[–] st3ph3n@midwest.social 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I'm here to recommend The Expanse. It's more of a near-future dystopian scifi setting than Star Trek, with humanity petty much limited to our own solar system by technology. I read the books before the show became a thing, and I like them both.

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[–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 9 points 1 month ago

Any of the classics really are worth a watch.

The Expanse - more realistic sci-fi that actually accounts for thrust as gravity and slingshots around planets and such. Dystopian but not quite depressingly so. I'm on season 2. Much more serious. Still good. Read the books with a friend.

Babylon 5 - Deep space 9 basically. Complete with godlike alien beliefs and a Vulcan like character. Honestly holds up really well from what I recall though it's been a while since I watched it.

Stargate - very fun. Campy. Not afraid to make fun of itself. Much more action and tropy but a very fun watch. Added bonus, between all three shows you've got like 18 seasons. Plenty to bite into. Honestly one of my favorite shows still.

Firefly - A Western, in space. Very good. Very fun. Love it.

Farscape - almost but not quite a sci-fi parody, but good. Guy gets lost in space, meets aliens, goes on adventure. Several of the actors also got roles in later seasons of Stargate.

[–] kieron115@startrek.website 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

bc i havent seen anyone else post it... Galaxy Quest!

[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Since that IS just Trek in disguise, everybody probably assumes OP has seen it.

[–] kieron115@startrek.website 3 points 1 month ago

fair, fair... i think i've even seen it on a couple of lists of the "best" star trek movies lol.

[–] GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Here to fanboy over Babylon 5.

B5 is a political comfort show for me, especially these days. It was brazen for the 90s, with characters facing questions like: recovering from drug addiction, cross-cultural romantic relationships and their hurdles, colonization and genocide, bisexual representation, the loss of family members, and what to do if you're a military member serving a regime that you hate. It's deeply philosophical and mature, and it's had a profound impact on my life.

It had the time to develop complex relationships between characters. One of my favorite characters is an alien ambassador named G'kar, played by Andreas Katsulas.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 1 points 1 month ago

Just to add while the CGI aged the content of the dialog hits harder to me an adult than it did as a kids. Top work.

[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 6 points 1 month ago

Well, I'd do a disservice to my hyperfixation if I didn't at least bring up Doctor Who which does count as science fiction. If you're looking for more in the vein of Star Trek, disregard and do go watch B5 and The Expanse.

[–] MalikMuaddibSoong@startrek.website 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Not sure if you’re actually wanting animated or not, but Scavenger’s Reign is a good animated sci-fi miniseries of a spaceship crew stranded on a strange planet.

For live action check out the two Callister episodes of Black Mirror.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

The Callister episodes are exceptional. I'm usually iffy on Black Mirror, but my partner insisted I watch those and I loved them.

[–] cuchi@startrek.website 2 points 1 month ago

animated

I said I want animated series too since Avatar seems to be the only good western animation and it's not even a sci-fi thing.

[–] CCMan1701A@startrek.website 5 points 1 month ago

The Expanse is nice, but the later seasons left me disappointed.

Andor is top of my list still for good story mixed with sci-fi.

Did you watch SeaQuest? Worth a look.

[–] KC_Royalz@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

I don't know anything about Babylon 5. But just watch the expanse without knowing anything first season is a slow burn but the payoff in season 2 is well worth it. Some of the best scifi I've watched

[–] thezeesystem@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Start gate series is my second favorite to star trek, I heard Babylon 5 is good. Didn't like the expanse felt to just more capitalist hellscape then scifi to me but I only watched the first episode but that's just my opinion and observations.

Dr who is a good sci-fi show as well as a rarely talked about show sliders from the 1990s. (Besides the last season imo)

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Expanse is weird in that Season 1 is a completely different show than the rest of the seasons.

Season 1 is primarily a detective on a space station.

The rest of the seasons follow characters on a spaceship.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 2 points 1 month ago

Your opinion on The Expanse is a valid and common one. It is a capitalist hellscape. But it's been mentioned already, it's a slow burn and by the second season you get why it took a while to get there. It's an unfortunate cliche that is true a lot - sometimes, you have to get through the first parts, either because of the needed character/worldbuilding, or simply because the show hasn't found its way yet. Don't give up on it.

[–] Wolf314159@startrek.website 4 points 1 month ago

Somebody's got to mention Red Dwarf, it's kind of like if The Office (UK) and Farscape had a baby and raised it on an old Dr. Who set.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

If you want funny scifi but with a frequent emotional edge, Red Dwarf is fantastic.

[–] Kirk@startrek.website 4 points 1 month ago

Babylon 5

Stargate SG-1

Farscape

[–] Dominion727@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Apple TV has had such an amazing run of good sci-fi lately

Silo, Foundation, For all mankind, Murderbot (honestly my favorite), Dark Matter, Pluribus

They are putting out a ton of great stuff.

[–] dkppunk@piefed.social 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Their scifi is pretty much the only reason I keep my AppleTV subscription. They put out so much good stuff.

And Pluribus surprised me. I had no interest in it until I found out there are aliens.

[–] st3ph3n@midwest.social 1 points 1 month ago

They had me at Vince Gilligan.

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Murderbot is fantastic and the Trek type show he’s obsessed with has actors who’ve been in actual Trek shows, it’s brilliant

[–] lath@piefed.social 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Lexx.

I hated it, but it's something alright.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Upvoting the Lexx. Loved it. Some episodes were weak but that's true of many shows.

I loved it because it was different.

[–] UpperBroccoli@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 month ago

Episode 2.18 - Brigadoom. Normally, musical episodes are shite, but that one is brilliant.

[–] fallaciousBasis@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What's to hate?

That shit is hilarious.

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[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 3 points 1 month ago

The Orville, Foundation, farscape, sliders (stop at end of s3), Stargate

[–] TribblesBestFriend@startrek.website 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The Two are nice. Babylone 5 could seems dated today but there’s some really cool things in it

I’m on my first watch of Farscape, so far so good, great puppets

Firefly maybe ? But Adam Baldwin and Joss Whedon are two very big asshole

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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[–] cuchi@startrek.website 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

How dated is Babylone 5 compared with Deep Space Nine?

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[–] kbal@fedia.io 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

I loved it as a child but it's hard to rewatch. It's not good.

[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 2 points 1 month ago

Gotta be honest, I lost interest after a while because the basic premise needs juuust a bit too much suspension of disbelief. Although I'm sure, if you can accept the premise, the individual episodes can be entertaining.

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