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[–] Naich@piefed.world 75 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Note that the person criticising the original is also not active in organising a general strike. It is permissable to hold opinions without being obliged to act on them.

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 44 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes. But the moment you release your opinion out on the wild, we're allowed to ridicule you for them.

[–] Naich@piefed.world 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Of course you can. I'm just saying that the criticism is stupid in this case. I mean, I think that fusion power would be a good thing, but fuck me for not working 24 hours a day on a PhD in nuclear physics.

[–] kuberoot@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

But that's more like having people talk about how we should do nuclear and renewable power, and you coming along complaining people should be working on developing fusion power instead because fission power just won't do anything

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Not it isn't.

Arguing that fission power won't do anything is objectively incorrect.

Arguing that a general strike would be more effective than weekend rallies alone is objectively correct.

Your analogy is not analagous.

Beyond that, arguing against doing something is not the same as arguing for doing something else, in addition to /or/ instead of the original something.

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[–] hoshikarakitaridia@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

That is true, however this is not about the acting, it's about hypocrisy in the traditional sense. OC is essentially saying "we have the same goal and I set an easier plan and I'm currently following it, while you are criticizing my plan, making up a way harder one, saying I should follow that one while not following either mine or your plan at all."

It's like when you a working in a supermarket, restocking the shelves and your coworker is just sitting on a chair watching you, and after a while he says "this is useless, you should rather do some cashier work, people are waiting" while eating candy.

Yeah sure he might be technically right, but this is extremely out of line.

[–] architect@thelemmy.club 4 points 1 week ago

Yea I’m really bad at organizing but I damn well know it has to be done by someone with the skill to do it.

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[–] madjo@piefed.social 44 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Could be a person not living in the USA, Max.

Us foreigners also have opinions on what's happening in the US, because it affects us too, but we have no way to affect change in the US, other than our boycotts.

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[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Remember, if your organization is big enough to organize a general strike, the feds are there and watching. Watch your back

recall that the FBI infiltrated the civil rights movement and more even before we had a police state empowered by the Patriot Act surveillance and AI data collection.

I have zero proof, but I suspect that they are actively disrupting all attempts at organization. This is based on the history of CIA and FBI; we never know what they are doing currently, we only know a tiny bit of what they have done in the past.

Maybe I'm paranoid.

[–] mrlemmyhimself@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Paranoid has proven to be downright reasonable

[–] MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

What was that one phrase again? Something like "there are two kinds of conspiracy theories: antisemitic woo and declassified CIA documents"

[–] Ghostie@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Evidence is there that they are doing that, at the very least the consistent effort to not only divide but also demoralize through deliberate propaganda. It’s why you see so many people on Reddit, Lemmy, or any other social media being downright pessimistic about what protests can accomplish or build into. They’ve already lost to the propaganda, so what’s going on now immediately gets written off by them as futile. They are exactly where these orgs want them to be: at home, isolated, writing dumb little comments on the internet that only serve to pull the crabs back down into the bucket. That kind of stuff is infectious to others and makes people opt to view organizing as ineffectual.

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[–] rayyy@piefed.social 26 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The No Kings Marches are just a prelude. Imagine all those millions of people participation in the upcoming general strike . Then imagine those millions turning to violence. Imagine them armed.

[–] homes@piefed.world 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Just a suggestion, but becoming armed before becoming violent might be a better order of progression.

[–] sepi@piefed.social 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

LOL what country do you think this is? "Becoming armed"? Bro this is America.

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (4 children)

except the ones who have traditionally fought against the right to bear arms is the same people protesting. they need to be armed, and they need to protest with their arms, same reason a government will parade with their weapons

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[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (3 children)

That might be the more logical progression, but logic rarely comes into play in these things.

In fact, being armed before it's time for violence is often a bad thing.

But when it is time, anything at hand can be a weapon.

Paris housewives once marched on Versailles and decapitated several guards with kitchen knives after they opened fire on the crowd.

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[–] InvalidName2@lemmy.zip 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The first comment / response or whatever that I read in there does a better job of expressing my opinion on this than I ever could.

"It's building the muscle. You have to get someone to show up one day before you can get them to show up often, or every day, or for the long haul."

Really the same goes for so many of the organizations running the events. They're local orgs, local people with different levels of experience (mostly very little) with organizing at this scale. It takes practice and time to get good at these things. It takes time to find volunteers and train them.

Contrary to what some of the comments implied, most of these events aren't planned/operated by paid professionals, not that paying for professional help is inherently a bad thing anyway. There's top-level guidance and coordination, that kind of stuff generally requires dedicated teams (aka paid employees) due to the time and skill requirements for those roles. But on the local level, it's volunteers all around. And the real planning, the hard work, is virtually all done locally by those volunteers.

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[–] whelk@retrolemmy.com 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)
  • People every time a post about protests is made: "This will accomplish nothing."
  • Those same people when asked what they're personally doing since they talk like they know what will and won't work: "Also nothing."
  • (Bonus points for the ones who say violent uprisings are needed, but are not violently rising up themselves. Double bonus for "well I don't live in the US.")

Protests aren't the solution on their own, they're a step in the process of people getting to the point of doing something about the situation they've found themselves in. You can't fix a problem if you don't first acknowledge and accept that it's a problem. Stop crapping on people for protesting. Instead, encourage them to use that energy to take things further. And if you know so much about what will actually work and are going out of your way to tell people what they're doing isn't going to work, maybe you should be doing the thing you claim will work so you can lead by example instead of armchair directing.

[–] JayDee@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

A term I've been using is 'activation'. people who are in the early stages of activation attend protests - more often attendance is more activation. This eventually evolves into active participation in support networks, vigilante counteraction, or legal resistance like journalism and similar activities.

Protest attendance is the start of most individuals' activation, and we can't knock that starting place if we want greater numbers participating in the counteraction apparatus going forward.

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[–] NottaLottaOcelot@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Your wallet is your strongest voice in the eyes of this administration. Think carefully about where you spend your hard earned money.

A single day of avoiding Walmart and Amazon is not meaningful if you give them your money tomorrow. Find local businesses that deserve your money and spend your money with them instead.

Buy less and buy better quality items that last longer. Reduce consumerism and give homemade gifts or experiences instead of more junk nobody needs. Use lending libraries, swap groups, and other methods to reduce your contribution to the economy, which is frankly the only thing the American government really is interested in.

And hats off to the person who successfully organizes a general strike. I’m cheering you on from Canada.

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[–] ThunderQueen@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago
[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Being part of march is already more than what many people would do. Seen too many times after the whole CEO execution last year people saying shit like "oh won't somebody step up and do something", "somebody should really try and change the system", or "I would totally support someone stepping up".

Buddy, that someone better be you. If not, be quiet.

  • Sincerely, a union representative of my workplace.
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[–] karashta@piefed.social 13 points 1 week ago

This is a pretty valid thing to say in the US.

Too many people think that just protesting is enough for any change they want to be effected. We don't get taught about things like labor struggles.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (7 children)

This person could be French. They know how to bring the state to heel, and they share their experiences for those clearly in need of learning Americans. But they have to leave organizing to the people who are actually involved.

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[–] gurty@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Oh yeah, lets argue amongst ourselves. That always works.

[–] ViceroTempus@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Why is it always a general strike? Why not a rent/mortgage strike?

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 8 points 1 week ago (13 children)

Sure, we'll all voluntarily surrender our paychecks, and starve. I'm sure MAGA will show empathy, and totally change their attitude, and won't just point and laugh at us as we starve, and scabs do our jobs for us.

I'd rather shut down the MAGA government for an extended period, deny them THEIR money, and hurt THEM. So the airports are out of control, who care? Almost everybody inconvenienced in an airport is upper middle class at the least. Most of them have money, and disproportionately vote MAGA.

So I'm sorry about the workers who get screwed, but I'm extremely happy to see people with money whining about missing their time on the slopes, or that big merger meeting that will unemploy thousands, or that AI training that will unemploy thousands, etc. Fuck them, make them wait for hours, as they ponder how voting MAGA has improved their lives.

[–] lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com 11 points 1 week ago (9 children)

If striking for 1 day means starving, then you got one more good reason for a general strike.

Best regards from Europe

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[–] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I was thinking about the airport stuff. Even that isn't what it may seem. For the upper middle class it is an inconvenience. But those below that who either fly for work, or to see family when they can afford it, it is much more than an inconvenience. So even that hits the "worker" harder.

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[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm not going to be first in line to start doing something that actually fucking matters, but you bet your ass I'll be third.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago

protests and direct action present an opportunity for everyone to go at once. it's just up to you guys to take it.

[–] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (11 children)

Just because the poster doesn't take action, doesn't mean they are wrong.

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago (5 children)

we've seen no kings 1 & 2 change diddly squat, so obviously we'll do the same thing a third time with the high hopes that nothing will change too!

Guy that is attending the useless no kings protest

You want actual change? Look at Europe on how to protest. I'm sorry for you Americans, but you got yourself in this, you gotta dig yourself out. Trump will NOT care about the o kings protest, and it'll fade from the news within two days tops. It. Is. Not. Enough.

Protest 24/7 for months on end until the fucker is gone

Have strikes everywhere, indeed, because that it the only way you'll get his attention and get this administration to understand that it's over

[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (3 children)

It’s very easy to say but you need to understand there are no labor protections in the US. Any protest during work hours result in termination.

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[–] wpb@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Yeah that's the pot calling the kettle black. Infighting between groups who manage to effect 0 change.

[–] GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

They ain't wrong though. And you arguing with them is no better than them arguing with you about this.

[–] systemglitch@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I want to see bloody filled rebellion with dead elites bodies being pissed on.

Yes please?

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[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 4 points 1 week ago

Start building guillotines, please!

[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago

Hes right though.

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