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You don't have to be mentally ill to be these things. Considering the type of people that rule our world

(epstein ) it seems that the most well adjusted people in our society are not only more than capable of being this, it seems like a requirement.

So I am no longer comfortable using the word psychopath (or any other "dark triad" nonsense) to describe these types of people. These people aren't struggling to function with a mental illness, they're of the exact mindset that thrives in our backwards society.

However I'm struggling to think of a suitable replacement word that carries with it the same "This is serial killer coded shit" vibe that calling someone a psychopath carries (and associating such a thing with psychopaths is ableist so I don't want to use the word in that way anymore)

Calling them ghouls, fascists or nazis doesn't carry the same weight. What kind of word bests describes the casual, dangerous heartlessness of people without throwing the mentally ill under the bus?

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[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 hours ago

I keep coming back to Fanon's observation, that the colonial situation dehumanizes the colonizer. They're ontologically evil, at the core of their being they are creatures that have made themselves inhuman so that they can benefit from colonization and imperialism.

[–] Enjoyer_of_Games@hexbear.net 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)
[–] stink@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 hour ago

Early in the genocide i called "israelis" inhuman and my partner got in an hours long argument with me that their actions are actually very human and how dehumanizing people is bad even if they're the worst people alive. I wonder what she thinks now though.

[–] BarrelsBallot@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

I agree with the other commenters who say phrases are better.

With single words, for it to have punch it has to be uncommonly used like a slur or a "smart" word.

Slurs aren't an option for obvious reasons and most "smart words" fall short because no one knows what they mean (the exception are words like "ingrate" which vaguely sound like a slur but are actually just "smart words").

Even with phrases, it can be tricky. Quips like "fatherless behavior" are funny even amongst those with a dad sized hole in their heart- but you risk hurting people all the same.

One thing that works for me is to make uncomfortable comparisons:

  • My contemporary that watches mass shooting videos a little too often isn't "evil", he's entertained by cannibalism.
  • Your coworker isn't a pedo for liking loli, they're someone with an "Epstein-like fascination for little girls".

Being laughed at ostensibly can be worse than being called any slur, I like the above examples because they have a pretty good chance of igniting laughter in a group setting. Getting other people in the room to clown on your target is a quick way to shut them down. And the pain of social ostracization is one that lingers for a long time.

[–] Sabbo@hexbear.net 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I assumed "featherless behavior" was a stand-in for the n-word. At least that's how I've seen it used. Similarly to how TikTok users would say "basketball people".

[–] Enjoyer_of_Games@hexbear.net 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

"featherless behavior"

smoking-fish behold a man!

[–] Mindfury@hexbear.net 20 points 10 hours ago (5 children)

demon

say it with as much disgust and venom as you can muster

prob bonus points as the target is likely a christian supremacist

[–] Dort_Owl@hexbear.net 3 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

IIRC They say the Antichrist will appear to people as a godly person, right?

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm tossing around an idea where the Great Satan is the Dragon spoken about in Revelations. Trump is the beast of the West (had a head injury, mouth flows with blasphemies, has power granted to him by the Dragon), and AI is the beast of the Earth (it's literally made of minerals from the earth, it will make the world and all the people in it worship the first beast). The war being "waged against the saints" is actually the war waged against the Axis of Resistance, the fire he makes come down from heaven is air strikes, the miracles he deceives with are AI slop, the "Mark" is face ID if they don't just lean into it and chip us.

Turning the Evangelical obsession with Armageddon on its head. Rub it in their fucking faces. ^10^He that leads into captivity shall go into captivity: he that kills with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.

[–] Sabbo@hexbear.net 2 points 1 hour ago

Whenever I heard that all of god's chosen would ascend unto heaven I assumed that meant they were all killed.

[–] CupcakeOfSpice@hexbear.net 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

What my pastors always said is that the Antichrist would essentially have their own cult. It might be a political cult, but of course those are those nasty socialist liberals, not chuds.

[–] Mindfury@hexbear.net 6 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

ie: "You relish in grinding up the poor for your own gain. You don't even pretend it's bad, you enjoy it, you think it's normal. You're a demon, there's no two-ways about it, and one day you'll get what you deserve"

[–] Mindfury@hexbear.net 7 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

borderline sephiroth posting here but fuck it, the bounds of liberal civility really do let these freaks off scot free for demonic shit and they aren't scared enough

[–] restless@hexbear.net 5 points 6 hours ago

I decided to write a poem about this just now. Might be a bit rough around the edges.

The Demonic Impulse

With so-called holy furor They abolish your freedoms And relish in human suffering Your agonies are their lullabies

The impulse exists within most of us The desire to see enemies laid low Put in their place For daring to resist 'the obvious truth'

It matters not which god you do it for It matters not which master you serve Or if you do it for no one at all

It is the path of demons The path of cruelty The path of treachery

When it becomes your agenda To mete out the absolute To define truth as your words alone And disagreement as treason

When it becomes your right To punish the punished To torture the tortured To ridicule that which you do not understand

To slide down the scale And let contempt consume you That they deserve your hatred For not being you

It's to plunge your humanity into the tarpit To wrest it by the neck and hold its face beneath the threshold To revel in the bubbles which rise to the surface And to spit on its weakness when the last one pops

You pull it back up, lungs full of rot Flesh seared and melded with the impulse This is what you breathe now This is what you feel now This is what you are now

Unfit for power Unfit for polite society You murdered the human within And joined the ranks of the Demons

And so now we ask each other Huddled amidst ourselves What is to be done about the devils Who seek a thousand thrones sewn from our faces

What is to be done When you try to act Like what you've done Is normal

What is to be done When you continue trying to pretend you're human When the stench of your dead, rotted soul Wafts in with every word you belch

The vile contempt you hold For all that is living and good The very concept of goodness in your mind Has been unrecognizably disfigured

Fuck you.

We've given you a billion chances To keep your disgusting mouth closed Before we came to the foregone conclusion That you'll get what's coming to you

One way or another

[–] d_cagno@hexbear.net 3 points 10 hours ago

Yeah I like this one. Works great if you almost hiss it

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 2 points 9 hours ago

meh i don't think that or satanic etc have any weight when they say it either.

[–] Dr_Pepper@hexbear.net 2 points 10 hours ago

I second demon

[–] ChaosMaterialist@hexbear.net 8 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Parasite is my goto. Vampire might also work, but they are romanticized to all hell.

[–] DogThatWentGorp@hexbear.net 1 points 6 hours ago

Vampire and cryptlord I've been using lately too. Not even to be mean necessarily it just rolls off the tongue and fits.

[–] upmysleeves@hexbear.net 9 points 8 hours ago

I think insults tend to have that ableist skew, turns of phrase however (eg 'they ain't seeing heaven') can be evocative without the ableist connotations imo.

Describing someone's actions nakedly (such as: murderous, manipulative, incurious, gullible, cowardly and so on) feel more appropriate and truthful than the 'innate' descriptors like the ones you said you want to get away from (which I think is where the ableism is rooted in)

[–] Meltyheartlove@hexbear.net 3 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)
  • Failed bourgeois
  • Epstein cultist
  • Future Kirk
  • Demiurge worshipper
  • Deathcult solicitor
[–] d_cagno@hexbear.net 10 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

Related, but I'd also like a punchy non-ableist word for someone who is just monumentally and deliberately ignorant. Like, whatever the fuck Matt Yglesias is.

[–] Enjoyer_of_Games@hexbear.net 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)
[–] WhatDoYouMeanPodcast@hexbear.net 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (2 children)

Garlic hater

Cartoon villain

Satanmaxxer

Hell builder

One way brain

Paid floating head

Underpaid floating head

Unpaid floating head

[–] decaptcha@hexbear.net 1 points 2 hours ago

One Way Brain rocks, thanks for that one

[–] Enjoyer_of_Games@hexbear.net 1 points 4 hours ago

BioLLM

Onionvore

Fukuyama acoylyte

[–] Ildsaye@hexbear.net 7 points 9 hours ago

Perhaps you are looking for 'dense motherfucker'

[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 3 points 9 hours ago

The Hiberno-English word "gobshite" (which I like to americanize as "gubshit") is good enough for most cases, I reckon. "Nezzie" is the idiosyncratic one I like to use in my inner monolog, but it's pretty opaque, coming from Russian "ne znáyu" ("I don't know").

If I were to make up some less opaque but still idiosyncratic words on the spot, then I guess "plug-ear" would work — we love a good "cutthroat compound", do we not? Or if we want to get more vulgar than that, then "earfuck" or "earfucker" would take the finger as a phallic symbol and crudely liken these people constantly going not-listening to them fucking their own ears.

[–] hullabaloo@hexbear.net 6 points 9 hours ago

Predator is a good one. The only reason groomer is so firmly in right wing vocabulary now is because their feelings were hurt with it first.

[–] JustSo@hexbear.net 4 points 8 hours ago

I think the word is "sadist."

[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 8 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

"Satans" or "shayateen" is where my own inner monolog tends to go. Or sometimes I'll say "shaitans" or even the double plural "shayateens". I also sometimes call those types of people KESS-kə-SAYZ (spelling varies) in my inner monolog, but given that that's a reference to the song "Psycho Killer" maybe it inherits ableist baggage from that song? Not that I'd expect anyone but myself to use such a term, anyways.

Edit: "Alex DeLarge types" or "droogs" are some more terms I use.

[–] microfiche@hexbear.net 5 points 9 hours ago
[–] Biggay@hexbear.net 2 points 7 hours ago

I always think of sociopath for this. perfectly reasonable people who just hate the idea of working with anybody or anything to construct or maintain society, or seek to exploit its dissolution. but i dont know if that isnt just swapping one bad word for another. i like my words to have some complexity or academic vibe.

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 5 points 10 hours ago

I thought maybe sociopath, but looking it up I find it IS a medical condition.

Unfortunately culturally the words that resonate with the most power are ableist. You don't find the other words to generate the same feeling because we've culturally turned people's ailments into our regularly used pejoratives; other words that aren't ableist don't strike the same because of culture. Heck, those people can take those words and turn them into a cool descriptor rather than be offended. It's probably why they hate the word chud; they can't try and turn it around to sound cool. Ghoul, vampire, demon, these can be turned around to sound cool; try mutant, I don't think they can turn that one around and it also carries that inherent insult to their belief in their racial superiority.

  • The rot of us
  • Human predators
  • Wendigo
[–] plinky@hexbear.net 6 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Evil and cruel fit the bill fry

[–] Dort_Owl@hexbear.net 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I feel like those words don't really carry weight anymore.

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 7 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Learn to put appropriate level of disgust into your speech, skill issue shrug-outta-hecks

People think them childish, but that’s because murican nuance brain, they are perfectly legible words

[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 6 points 10 hours ago

you can fit a lot of venom into the word "monster"

[–] Dort_Owl@hexbear.net 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I shall employ a lightening machine to create the proper ambiance when saying them

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 4 points 10 hours ago

Depends like if you are trying to hurt someone in front of you (then truth works better anyway), behind the screen (unknowable 50% chatbot, who doesn’t care about words), gossiping about third person (legibility is important again) or third person on social media (being nicer there is more of a plus i think), only one on one i can see some value in being inventive

[–] I_Voxgaard@hexbear.net 4 points 10 hours ago

Call them what they are - supremacists

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 3 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

I feel like any derogatory term for someone who should be shunned and made to feel lesser that doesnt have racist or exist connotations has been used as an ableist insult cause that's what people has left. So while some may feel this way, I do try to avoid terms where the literal meaning is ableist. I call these people freaks very often, etymologically a freak is an overly capricious person, which later led to it being used to describe a capriciously obsessive person and then broadened into a term for a hateful circus act. The adjective Disgusting gets passed around alot in my speech, I feel it fits the bill.nicely. I use monsters and ghouls a lot cause the bill fits. They arent hot enough to be demons. I don't think Butcher gets thrown around enough. I generally make it up kn the spot to suite whichever loathsome fuck i have the the displeasure of being aware of. Loathsome fuck was on the spot for example. When seeing how much impact a word has, try it out loud. Be poetic. Or anti poetic, 'loathsome fuck' is a decent example. It sounds like a star wars alien name, and those all sound like slurs. Do a 5 dollar word followed by a really childish insult and you've got the best combo generally. Just don't go 2010s reddit and call people Incandescent Dunderheads. Informative adjective followed by a swear word. Ricky from trailer park boys herd it right. Just call someone what they are doing followed by Dick. Security guy bothering you? Security dick, sometimes describing the kind of dick someone is tskes a paragraph but the summary can hurt.

Geek seems to get under people's skin in a weird way. Same with weenie