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Skyrim is shit btw. Oblivion forever (oblivion is worse than Morrowind, but Oblivion was my entrance to the games so I love it)

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[–] asdasd201@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 16 hours ago

The only thing TES5 is good for is pornography mods, and it is getting replaced by newer games like F4 and Cyberpunk.

[–] LaughingLion@hexbear.net 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

the best scrolls game is the one you played in your teens because it was fresh enough and you were young enough that your imagination and the novelty filled in all the gaps for you

for me and my peeps it was morrowind because we are all in our 40s but most of us arent online as much anymore and the next generation of young people's voices are more prominent online so now its oblivion and one day you'll be beat down with life and half the people you know will have died or be super busy and people will be saying skyrim is best

mark my words

[–] BanMeFromPosting@hexbear.net 5 points 22 hours ago

Next you're going to tell me ska isn't actually that good

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 1 day ago

Im old enough to remember having the same opinion but of oblivion comparing it to morrowind. Somehow Bethesda keeps falling forward.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 27 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Bethesda certainly have a lot to contend with in the Fromsoft era of realtime combat and the BG3 era of RPG.

I expect them to produce Starfield with an Elder Scrolls reskin for the next game but with some AI npc interactions. The first 2 months will be everyone defending it followed by the realisation that it's dogshit just like Starfield.

[–] comrade_pibb@hexbear.net 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

ES6 being complete dogshit is the free space on my 2032 bingo card

[–] kalabaza@hexbear.net 1 points 12 hours ago

Yeah I agree ECMAScript 6 sucks

[–] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 8 points 1 day ago

2032? Mighty optimistic are we?

[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Did it even take two months for people to come around to starfield being shit? Felt more like a week or two at the most.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 7 points 1 day ago

There was definitely a small crowd who were immediately negative but it took the people who paid for it a while to accept

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[–] Oskolki@hexbear.net 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Skyrim would have been a great game, if it was built on the principles of socialism, which is sort of was with the mod community, unfortunately it was built on the principles of liberalism using the wealth and experience acquired from the previous projects.

Once you get to this point in life you only have two choices, no matter what you're doing, are you willing to invest the money back into human beings? They tried to do something with mods irrc so why not invest capital into establishing a school for devs? Literally could have ended up having the most interesting looking, polished, well run, videogame ever made.

Instead we get this lovable half-assed broken mess carried by both money thrown at advertising campaigns and the mod scene. Yet another example of how short sighted libs are, all the awesome stuff people manage to build is an exception that proves it. All that effort displayed by wondering adventurers would get multiplied if they worked together. I mean what was that Baldurs Gate sort of shows it. Now imagine if a Game company had 1.000-10.000 workers in-house, guaranteed employment, 8 hours of sleep a night, lunch breaks, shared goal, instead of what they have had.

Although gamers don't deserve it, so scratch that. The developers do tho'

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Once you get to this point in life you only have two choices, no matter what you’re doing, are you willing to invest the money back into human beings? They tried to do something with mods irrc so why not invest capital into establishing a school for devs? Literally could have ended up having the most interesting looking, polished, well run, videogame ever made.

Wouldve been the biggest PR move ever too but the capitalist worldview made them see the modding community as their enemies lol

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[–] BountifulEggnog@hexbear.net 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

@ashinadash@hexbear.net

In case you ever log back in you should see this thread.

Miss you a lot.

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 8 points 1 day ago

Legends say that it is only with the widespread falsehood of "Fallout 2 > Fallout 1" that will harken ashinadash's return.

[–] Kuori@hexbear.net 19 points 1 day ago (6 children)

forever missing ash and her posts doggirl-cry

[–] BanMeFromPosting@hexbear.net 15 points 1 day ago

We've lost so many posters over the years. Like tears in the rain.

[–] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Kuori@hexbear.net 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

we have lost entirely too many wonderful people throughout the years

i just hope they're only gone from here and not...more generally omori-miserable

[–] QuietCupcake@hexbear.net 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Yeah. doggirl-cry

I often wonder which of the hexbears whose posting I loved but who disappeared, actually only changed names and maybe posted less frequently, which of them simply moved on from the site, and which of them had irl events (either good or bad) that superseded their continued input here. It's especially noticeable when I read years old threads and see names (some of whom I might have forgotten about otherwise) that hit me with a rush of nostalgia and think "damn, they were such an awesome poster! I wonder what ever happened to them..."

[–] Kuori@hexbear.net 6 points 1 day ago

cuddle i feel you. one of the hardest parts of socializing on the internet is that people really can just vanish and you'll never learn anything more about it. i like to imagine good things happened for all of them but...well, we live in the reality we do, after all.

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[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 19 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Bethesda hasn't put out anything above average since Oblivion

Oblivion was overall not good, but it had some moments, mostly involving Shivering Isles

But Oblivion was basically them rejecting everything that made Morrowind such a classic

No unique setting (Cyrodiil was supposed to be fairly Mediterranean if I recall correctly), weak villain and plot (boy, it would be great if I actually did something other than escort Sean Bean to his death) and it was the beginning of them paring down all the crunch that makes RPGs fun

[–] XiaCobolt@hexbear.net 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No unique setting (Cyrodiil was supposed to be fairly Mediterranean if I recall correctly), w

The empire was meant to be the collision between Roman (Colovian) and Aztec (Nibenay) culture. Roman centurions with face tattoos and feather capes. Mediterranean on the coast. Jungle inland etc.

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 7 points 1 day ago

Thanks!

I knew there was supposed to be something more to it than rolling green European hills

Elder Scrolls is not The Simpsons, I can tell you that

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[–] Sam@hexbear.net 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I always wonder what happened to Kirkbride. All the stuff he did for Morrowind was so far out there and then he just sort of fell off the face of the earth. He's just been doing managerial positions in game dev ever since. My favourite is the Knights of Pelinal stuff for oblivion. The image of a time travelling cyborg medieval knight stepping out the dense jungle with his Minotaur nephew before a bunch of tribal Cyrodillians is probably the only thing that has stuck with me from Oblivion.

[–] jackmaoist@hexbear.net 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He works as an external consultant for Bethesda every now and then. He's been involved in pretty much every game although with less degree.

[–] Sam@hexbear.net 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Much less degree. C0DA and its various related writings are the sort of things that should have been included in the game (ESO doesn't count, death to MMOs). Bethesdas race to the most marketable game possible isnt suprising its just that Kirkbride hasn't established himself like say Chris Avellone (an extremely overrated writer IMO) as a recognisable RPG writer. Instead he's spent most of his time working at TellTale, which I always kind of thought was a waste.

[–] jackmaoist@hexbear.net 3 points 20 hours ago

I mean it's just upto him. Working in Game Studios is not very fun especially if you work at big name AAA studios.

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

oblivion is shit morrowind forever astronaut-1 morrowind is shit daggerfall forever astronaut-1 daggerfall is shit arena forever astronaut-1

spoileractually i've never met an Arena defender

[–] BanMeFromPosting@hexbear.net 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Isn't more like
Skyrim is shit, oblivion forever astronaut-1 Oblivion is just fine, morrowind forever astronaut-1 Morrowind is good, not great, daggerfall forever astronaut-1 WHAT? WHAT ARE YOU KIDS TALKING ABOUT? meemaw

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[–] NecroticEuphoria@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Skyrim is great at a lot of things, being a good RPG is not one of them.

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[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 10 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Roleplaying in Skyrim is a skill issue

My favorite Skyrim RPG build is that of the ambitious Vampire Hunter, the victim of vampire nobles who killed his family; he swore eternal vengeance against all rich vamps

He crosses the border to join the Dawnguard before the main quest sidelines him. In his eyes every quest is simply an opportunity to acquire another weapon to destroy his vampiric enemies

He joins the Companions to improve his combat skills and jumps at the chance to become a Werewolf for obvious reasons

He travels to Winterhold College to learn spells that counter the art of Lifedrain

He searches for Words of Power because "If it can bring down Dragons, it can bring down Vampires"

At his lowest moment he forsakes his ideals and seeks the aid of the Daedric Princes, acquiring dark weapons and darker powers

But then, He stumbles upon the mysteries of the Dwemer and impressed by the mechanical power on display, he realizes it's not demonic magic he needs, but Knowledge, he learns everything there is to know about Dwemer technology, gets himself some poisoned exploding Dwemer bolts and a Dwemer Crossbow and becomes the stealth archer he was born to be

[–] XiaCobolt@hexbear.net 12 points 1 day ago

I've found that Skyrim is good for roleplaying if you only use diagetic fast travel (wagons, boats) and you pretend you have no idea where Amy of the particular quests and items are.

Walking town to town collecting odd jobs, sleeping in inns by the road and collecting rumours as an adventurer is neat.

[–] 30_to_50_Feral_PAWGs@hexbear.net 11 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I had a blast doing a playthrough as Rincewind from Discworld.

Skyrim seems like the kind of place he would turn up.

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[–] MasterBlaster@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 1 day ago (9 children)

To be entirely fair, you can do this kind of roleplaying in any video game. You don't have to be Gordon Freeman in Half-Life 2. You could be a civilian imposter that just looks like him.

Roleplaying in RPGs should intersect with the mechanics of the game, usually limiting you via stats and gameplay options. So, if your character is a vampire hunter, for example they should be more specialized in weapons that vampire hunters use. Your character's dedication to weaponry would mean they're less, idk, charismatic or whatever. That creates interesting gameplay scenarios, connects you to your character more and encourages you to replay the game to experience what you traded off in one playthrough.

Since Skyrim, Bethesda has started to lean into 'infinite leveling,' which means every character will eventually become the same ultra-competent bandit slayer. They also very rarely restrict content depending on your characters choices.

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[–] Meltyheartlove@hexbear.net 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I have hated every bethesda game that I ever played except for call of cthulu which I didn't finish because it was riddled with bugs.

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[–] BironyPoisoned@hexbear.net 5 points 1 day ago

Shitrim

But Oblivious was way worse. Got my Dark Elves looking like Jolly Green Giant like wtf.

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